Renaming the Cleveland baseball team (NOT FOR DEFENDING "INDIANS")

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Mind you, what's the difference between Tribe/Braves/Chiefs?

And why are the Indianapolis Indians still a thing? Not enough protesting, probably zero times ever for a little farmhand team. No, attack the big money organization instead.

I think moving on past all of those names would be nice. I think it's all in due time.

Washington's football team name was incredibly racist, so it went down first. We had a really racist logo and a semi-problematic name so we were up next.

Atlanta has had a ton of controversy about the Tomahawk chop. "Braves" is interesting--it's talking specifically about a job/role/class (the warriors) instead of a group of people. I'm not intimately familiar with their past, so I could be very wrong here, but if it's just the name, I think they can be fine with it. I don't think it's denigrating a group of people. Could it be changed? Sure. Is it exactly the same as the Cleveland Indians? I don't think so.

Chiefs is similar to the Braves. Again, I'm not going to pretend to know everything about their history, but just the name? If it's not really used to denigrate indigenous people, so I think it can be fine.

Indianapolis Indians is probably still around because they're a minor league team that nobody knows about. I'm surprised they haven't changed yet. If I were them, I'd get on with that sooner rather than later.

By the way, do you actually think the tens of people protesting outside the stadium were the reason for the name change? It wasn't some vindictive outside attack--it was the organization choosing to move away from a problematic history and wanting to be better moving forward.

 

[Real Deal]

It would be interesting to face off against the Braves in the series.... I am sure this subject will be tossed around if that's the case.

Thatll actually be one of the most interesting World Series on so many levels.

 

[Real Deal]

I think moving on past all of those names would be nice. I think it's all in due time.

Washington's football team name was incredibly racist, so it went down first. We had a really racist logo and a semi-problematic name so we were up next.

Atlanta has had a ton of controversy about the Tomahawk chop. "Braves" is interesting--it's talking specifically about a job/role/class (the warriors) instead of a group of people. I'm not intimately familiar with their past, so I could be very wrong here, but if it's just the name, I think they can be fine with it. I don't think it's denigrating a group of people. Could it be changed? Sure. Is it exactly the same as the Cleveland Indians? I don't think so.

Chiefs is similar to the Braves. Again, I'm not going to pretend to know everything about their history, but just the name? If it's not really used to denigrate indigenous people, so I think it can be fine.

Indianapolis Indians is probably still around because they're a minor league team that nobody knows about. I'm surprised they haven't changed yet.

By the way, do you actually think the tens of people protesting outside the stadium were the reason for the name change? It wasn't some vindictive outside attack--it was the organization choosing to move away from a problematic history and wanting to be better moving forward.

I understand all of this, just thought Tribe would've been the best case scenario to keep everyone in tact. If you're going to go away from it, then change the font too.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

I understand all of this, just thought Tribe would've been the best case scenario to keep everyone in tact. If you're going to go away from it, then change the font too.

I think they kept the font and color scheme because they knew so many fans would throw a bitch fit over any change. Some people probably rationalized that this would be for the best.

I don't think they won any people over with the half-brand.

I expect a full color scheme rebrand within five years. I'm excited to see some sandstone in the color scheme.

 

[BimboColesHair]

They’ve done a lot of things half assed in their history.

They did not “throw together” their current rebrand. Years and years of prep work.

Because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it was half-assed. Disrespectful to the work put in by a lot of people inside and outside of the organization.

 

[N7RobBob]

I think they kept the font and color scheme because they knew so many fans would throw a bitch fit over any change. Some people probably rationalized that this would be for the best.

I don't think they won any people over with the half-brand.

I expect a full color scheme rebrand within five years. I'm excited to see some sandstone in the color scheme.

#TeamSandstone

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

This thread was intended to be a short-lived threat for venting on the name-change. It also was supposed to be only for people who didn't like the name-change, and not for people who did like the name-change to come in here and argue/name-call.

So, there's really no reason to not lock this now before shit gets out of hand.