Replacing Baker Mayfield: Poll

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What Should the Browns Do at QB in 2022?

  • Trade for Aaron Rodgers

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • Trade for DeShaun Watson

    Votes: 10 11.9%
  • Trade for Russell Wilson

    Votes: 21 25.0%
  • Spend a first round pick on a QB

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Draft a developmental QB later

    Votes: 6 7.1%
  • Sign a veteran to replace Keenum and extend Baker Mayfield

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Franchise/Transition tag Baker on a one year contract and sign a veteran

    Votes: 15 17.9%
  • Accept the $18.8 million team option for Baker like Lee said, fuck it.

    Votes: 25 29.8%

  • Total voters
    84
  • Poll closed .

adam81king

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I thought the issues with Watson and Houston started with ownership and was just solidified by how Caserio handled biz?
 

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Amazing how quickly the NFL landscape can change..

Within a week's time, the Dolphins were previously a favorite for Watson and now look to have chosen Tua long-term.. The Eagles were another team rumored to be in the mix... But are they still making the playoffs with Hurts? With the Panthers change and aggressiveness, I think they leap to the front of the Watson derby...

Raiders make the playoffs and with a new head coach, and potentially GM coming on board, I seem to think Carr for his play and stability is more than likely to stay..

Vikings clean house which certainly makes it more likely someone like Cousins is on the market..

Jimmy G leads the 49ers to the playoffs..

Wilson comes out saying he now wants to stay in Seattle, and it looks like Carroll will be staying on as well..

While Rodgers wanted out last year, odds seem to be increasing that things have thawed over in GB and he'd be open to staying...
 

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Don't think Berry says this if there was no chance Baker would be brought back for 2022 because of a rift/broken relationship.
 

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Don't think Berry says this if there was no chance Baker would be brought back for 2022 because of a rift/broken relationship.

Unfortunately, I do agree.

I still think they're going to explore all their options at the position (and I think there are more possibilities than most) and if they find something the talking point will obviously change to "we had every intention of going with Baker as our QB in 2022, but the opportunity to acquire Player X was just something we felt as an organization we simply couldn't pass up"

If absolutely none of those things shake out and Baker returns, they have plausible deniability to the locker room and to Baker/his camp that he was their guy all along.
 

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This article named, literally, EVERYONE else on offense as an issue...
Likely due to the fact it was.

QB #6 stunk. However, those around him did not do much at all to help him besides the run game being ever effective.

Fans were so ready to run OBJ outta town despite that bumping DPJ to the top option at wideout. A guy who is a 3rd WR on a good team, then we act like we cannot fathom how recievers do not get separation... And when they did, the read was frequently missed or the throw was not accurate or batted down at the line.
 

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Likely due to the fact it was.

QB #6 stunk. However, those around him did not do much at all to help him besides the run game being ever effective.

Fans were so ready to run OBJ outta town despite that bumping DPJ to the top option at wideout. A guy who is a 3rd WR on a good team, then we act like we cannot fathom how recievers do not get separation... And when they did, the read was frequently missed or the throw was not accurate or batted down at the line.

You're still not getting it.

When the QB stinks, none of that other stuff matters. A team can't consistently win and certainly can't win at the highest levels with bad QB play. The game is just too slanted in favor of passing offense at this point to be able to win with a terrible QB barring something flukish like the best defense in the league by a mile.

So answer these two questions for me... assuming everything else is the same, same injuries, same everything...

If you replaced DPJ with Chase - do the Browns make the playoffs?

If you replaced Baker with Burrow - do the Browns make the playoffs?

You may disagree, but to me the answer is clearly no on the DPJ/Chase swap and clearly yes on the Baker/Burrow swap.

Of course it would benefit the Browns to get better WR play. But it would benefit them tremendously more to get better QB play.

The Browns would have made the playoffs this year had they had better QB play with this exact group of weak WRs. There were that many plays to be made that weren't.
 

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You're still not getting it.

When the QB stinks, none of that other stuff matters. A team can't consistently win and certainly can't win at the highest levels with bad QB play. The game is just too slanted in favor of passing offense at this point to be able to win with a terrible QB barring something flukish like the best defense in the league by a mile.

So answer these two questions for me... assuming everything else is the same, same injuries, same everything...

If you replaced DPJ with Chase - do the Browns make the playoffs?

If you replaced Baker with Burrow - do the Browns make the playoffs?

You may disagree, but to me the answer is clearly no on the DPJ/Chase swap and clearly yes on the Baker/Burrow swap.

Of course it would benefit the Browns to get better WR play. But it would benefit them tremendously more to get better QB play.

The Browns would have made the playoffs this year had they had better QB play with this exact group of weak WRs. There were that many plays to be made that weren't.
After taking a couple of days to reflect on the season, i think this team is closer than we all think. Though it still needs to be able to stay healthy, upgrade the receiver talent, and cut down on penalties. I think this gets lost in the chaos of the season but 6 of the Browns 9 losses were by 6 points or less. So it wasnt as if they werent competitive and getting blown out of the water. This team was damn close to winning a bunch more games.

To answer your questions the answer is yes and yes. A down field threat that can catch anythign and blow through coverage drastically changes this team and offense. A healthy Baker, a star WR, a healthy Hunt, a non injured OBJ, and offensive line that wasnt playing musical chairs. All of these things probably make the difference between playoffs and not. In fact if the browns dont get screwed by the refs against the chargers this team is probably in the playoffs. So to say you dont think a massive upgrade at the receiver position makes the difference I think is being a bit blinded.

If Wilson or Rodgers drop in the Browns lap I absolutely see them taking a chance, but the more i look back the more i very much understand why the FO is taking the stance its taking. Get some receiver help, get the team healthy, hopefully add some bodies to the DL and run it back. Its been said before but the difference between last year's team making the playoffs and this year's team not making the playoffs was basically just a series of good luck versus bad luck
 

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After taking a couple of days to reflect on the season, i think this team is closer than we all think. Though it still needs to be able to stay healthy, upgrade the receiver talent, and cut down on penalties. I think this gets lost in the chaos of the season but 6 of the Browns 9 losses were by 6 points or less. So it wasnt as if they werent competitive and getting blown out of the water. This team was damn close to winning a bunch more games.

To answer your questions the answer is yes and yes. A down field threat that can catch anythign and blow through coverage drastically changes this team and offense. A healthy Baker, a star WR, a healthy Hunt, a non injured OBJ, and offensive line that wasnt playing musical chairs. All of these things probably make the difference between playoffs and not. In fact if the browns dont get screwed by the refs against the chargers this team is probably in the playoffs. So to say you dont think a massive upgrade at the receiver position makes the difference I think is being a bit blinded.

If Wilson or Rodgers drop in the Browns lap I absolutely see them taking a chance, but the more i look back the more i very much understand why the FO is taking the stance its taking. Get some receiver help, get the team healthy, hopefully add some bodies to the DL and run it back. Its been said before but the difference between last year's team making the playoffs and this year's team not making the playoffs was basically just a series of good luck versus bad luck

I completely agree that the Browns are closer to success than not. But the primary issue is QB. By a lot. More than everything else combined.

All the other stuff you're talking about - health at positions that aren't QB, poor receivers, heavy penalties, inconsistent kicking - the Browns would have been a playoff team even with all of that had they simply gotten better QB play.
 

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I completely agree that the Browns are closer to success than not. But the primary issue is QB. By a lot. More than everything else combined.

All the other stuff you're talking about - health at positions that aren't QB, poor receivers, heavy penalties, inconsistent kicking - the Browns would have been a playoff team even with all of that had they simply gotten better QB play.

Thing is the Browns were a playoff team - even won a playoff game on the road - just one year ago with the same QB.
 

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