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What Are Your Thoughts on the State of Star Trek

  • It's Great! The New Shows Add to a Rich Tapestry!

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • The new shows are awful, dumbed-downed, JJ-ized caricatures of Star Trek

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • The new stuff needs some tweaking, but retains the spirit of Trek

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • Anything after the end of Deep Space 9 should be removed from canon

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Star Trek has sucked since the original cast retired

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The franchise needs a reset and start over from the end of Voyager

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • The JJ Movies were good, but the new shows suck

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The new shows are great, but the new movies suck

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Spot, Chester and Garak need their own show

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • We need a show where Scotty, Damar and Chief O'Brian, travel the galaxy visiting bars and pubs

    Votes: 4 33.3%

  • Total voters
    12
He’s the clearest evidence DS9 > TNG. The latter never really gave him much to do but DS9 had great scripts for him and his acting was superb.
DS9 gave him much to do, including, and most importantly, SUFFERING!
 
I just watched the DS9 documentary last night. They did a possible season 8 episode 1 storyboard that sounded pretty epic. Also seeing HD footage made me so giddy.

Also Garak is the best character in Star Trek. Talk about a mystery wrapped up in an enigma.
 
Did anyone listen to the DS9 4 part reading last year? It's called Alone Together and damnit did it make me want more DS9.
 
I just watched the DS9 documentary last night. They did a possible season 8 episode 1 storyboard that sounded pretty epic. Also seeing HD footage made me so giddy.

Also Garak is the best character in Star Trek. Talk about a mystery wrapped up in an enigma.
I saw that when it was out for one day in the theater.

DS9 had so many sparkling supporting characters. Garak was awesome. The scenes between Garak and Odo in "The die is cast" were outstanding.
 
I saw that when it was out for one day in the theater.

DS9 had so many sparkling supporting characters. Garak was awesome. The scenes between Garak and Odo in "The die is cast" were outstanding.
"Improbable Cause" and "The Die is Cast" is when I realized that DS9 was going to be a completely different animal to TNG.

The formula of no long term consequences thing was being dropped and the long-term consequences of the Dominion threat was going to be catastrophic.

And it was awesome.
 
"Improbable Cause" and "The Die is Cast" is when I realized that DS9 was going to be a completely different animal to TNG.

The formula of no long term consequences thing was being dropped and the long-term consequences of the Dominion threat was going to be catastrophic.

And it was awesome.
Series was built for Netflix long before there was a Netflix.
 
Series was built for Netflix long before there was a Netflix.
DS9 was truly a revolutionary show.

It has many hallmarks of shows ten years after in the golden age of great television.

It was a serialized show with a large, varied ensemble cast (back then executives feared audiences could not keep track of secondary characters) that dealt with topics of war, terrorism, religion and politics that virtually no network shows were talking about in the 90s.

It was basically the first post 9/11 show. It was a space opera that dealt with the gritty aspects of humanity that presaged BSG. It used secondary characters in a way no series did prior to then; heralding Game of Thrones. It explored trauma in its characters that wasn't really done, which is now taken for granted. DS9 put the totality of human shortcoming on one canvas in a presentation, through aliens species (religious fundamentalism from the Bajorans, xenophobia from the Dominion, pervasive security states in place of liberty with the Cardassians and Romulans, unbridled capitalism from the Ferengi) and the Federation grappling with all of that as its pre-conceived notions are challenged by total war.

It had a good audience back in the 90s. But it is the type of show that would have been immensely popular if it were released today.
 
Shatter getting into space is just so fucking perfect.
 
Nobody except Shatner could have gotten away with that. And I'm not even sure that he did.

Well after today he's technically more qualified to sing it than Sir Elton himself. At least until Bezos invites him to perform on the Amazon moon base in 2035.
 
Thoughts on Strange New Worlds?

I like the concept, but what is it with Kurtzman and making every character damaged and governed by their trauma?

Its embarrassingly hackey.

Like many poor writers, they need to cage their characters in a glass case of emotion because they confuse it with character development.

This is promising though. I enjoyed most of it. Hopefully they keep it up.

New Spock is hot.
 

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