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TheLand1287

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Reaching that far back to lie about my take on the 2018 QB class speaks more to your inability to justify this shitburger of a take on OBJ. Sounds like a long time of pent up rage...


Nevertheless, watching you piss your pants over anonymous media takes and call actual athletes "losers" for not doing the same makes my point better than going back and forth with you ever could.

I'll leave you to your constant projection...

Not a lie, you LOVED Josh Rosen. He was QB1. Had nothing to do with my OBJ take, just thought it was a nice fun fact to add.

"shitburger", "pent up rage", "piss your pants", "constant projection" ... you're a weirdo, dude.
 

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Not a lie, you LOVED Josh Rosen. He was QB1. Had nothing to do with my OBJ take, just thought it was a nice fun fact to add.

"shitburger", "pent up rage", "piss your pants", "constant projection" ... you're a weirdo, dude.

This you?

I'm at the point where it's almost a no brainer that it should be:

1) QB (Darnold or Rosen)
 

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This you?

The difference is I don't go around here acting like I know everything. That class was fucked anyway. Every team passed on Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen was a raw talent that the majority of this board would've been melting down over if the Browns picked him. But when you act like you're the smartest guy in the room on every topic of conversation... it's kind of fun to bring up points to the contrary.
 

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Has to be exhausting ignoring/discrediting multiple reports dating back to 2020 of OBJ not wanting to be here and his using his dad and friends to push his way out when he didn't get his way. I'm sure some guys do like him. Out of 50+ players, he was bound to make some friendships here. It doesn't change that he quit on the team when adversity hit them.

The was absolutely zero knowledge about any of those 2020 reports until after OBJ was released though. Plus if we're using your logic then we are to believe that OBJ was pushing really hard to get out of here for 2 years and at the same time getting universal love in the organization from the top down all the way to the point of and even after his release?

So you're saying OBJ quit on his team in which players and coaches alike loved him and that happened for two seasons?

Keep in mind that there weren't any reports of any rifts or issues with OBJ in the locker room. Only high praise from teammates and coaches but after a report about him wanting out since 2020 everything that we saw with our own eyes and heard from the players and coaches should just be washed away?
 

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The difference is I don't go around here acting like I know everything. That class was fucked anyway. Every team passed on Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen was a raw talent that the majority of this board would've been melting down over if the Browns picked him. But when you act like you're the smartest guy in the room on every topic of conversation... it's kind of fun to bring up points to the contrary.

I've never claimed to be any of that, but more often than not, my record is pretty good here.

So you keep making it about me, and I'll just keep not being a consumer of pundit-driven takes and trash cliche about OBJ....cool?
 

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The only team I could see beating the Chiefs was Buffalo. Mahomes gets No. 2, a year late.
Of course the Rams might be close, as they are Buffalo-like. But not completely. Their defense and special teams might have to factor for a 10-second defense.

Josh Allen is definitely my favorite non-Mahomes QB in the NFL right now. Diggs didn't even have to go off, because Gabriel Davis stepped way tf up. If Buffalo had Cleveland's running game they would own the NFL. Not just the AFC. He went from "a guy" to "wait a minute, he's not actually Jay Schroeder" to "wait a minute, he can actually battle Mahomes" in the span of a couple of seasons. Buffalo did not punt against New England in 2 straight games, then only had a few punts against KC and almost won it, if not for the improbability of a 13 second blunder by special teams/defense.

KC themselves took a while to get to "F-U" level in the AFC. From Alex Smith to Boody cheats (fuck that Dee Ford call). Andy Reid finally has a team he can play his game with. Unicorns at key positions. Buffalo is almost there.
 

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The only team I could see beating the Chiefs was Buffalo. Mahomes gets No. 2, a year late.
Of course the Rams might be close, as they are Buffalo-like. But not completely. Their defense and special teams might have to factor for a 10-second defense.

Josh Allen is definitely my favorite non-Mahomes QB in the NFL right now. Diggs didn't even have to go off, because Gabriel Davis stepped way tf up. If Buffalo had Cleveland's running game they would own the NFL. Not just the AFC. He went from "a guy" to "wait a minute, he's not actually Jay Schroeder" to "wait a minute, he can actually battle Mahomes" in the span of a couple of seasons. Buffalo did not punt against New England in 2 straight games, then only had a few punts against KC and almost won it, if not for the improbability of a 13 second blunder by special teams/defense.

KC themselves took a while to get to "F-U" level in the AFC. From Alex Smith to Boody cheats (fuck that Dee Ford call). Andy Reid finally has a team he can play his game with. Unicorns at key positions. Buffalo is almost there.

SF or LA can beat KC. KC defense can't keep up with Shanny or McVay offenses. BUF has absolutely no running game and couldn't have a balanced enough attack. Both NFC teams are complete on offense and we know they both have it on defense.
 

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The was absolutely zero knowledge about any of those 2020 reports until after OBJ was released though.

That's not true. Jay Glazer reported he was asking other players to get him out of Cleveland in 2019. MKC mentioned him possibly being moved in April of 2021.

Plus if we're using your logic then we are to believe that OBJ was pushing really hard to get out of here for 2 years and at the same time getting universal love in the organization from the top down all the way to the point of and even after his release?

Players and coaches will always say the safe and correct thing...until things start not going well. Same thing happened in NY. He didn't want to be there and he didn't want to be traded here.

So you're saying OBJ quit on his team in which players and coaches alike loved him and that happened for two seasons?

Keep in mind that there weren't any reports of any rifts or issues with OBJ in the locker room. Only high praise from teammates and coaches but after a report about him wanting out since 2020 everything that we saw with our own eyes and heard from the players and coaches should just be washed away?

Players treat this as a business. I doubt many players would've cared that he preferred to be elsewhere as long as he kept showing up every day, which he did until he forced the issue to get out. Even after he did that, I'm not surprised he has allies.

But make no mistake - he 100% quit on this team.
 

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SF or LA can beat KC. KC defense can't keep up with Shanny or McVay offenses. BUF has absolutely no running game and couldn't have a balanced enough attack. Both NFC teams are complete on offense and we know they both have it on defense.

Bro what? Buffalo didn't need a running game or balanced attack. All they needed was to not give up 40 yards in 13 seconds lol.

This weekend proved that any of these teams can beat each other. 3 of the 4 underdogs/road teams won, and the 4th was 13 seconds away from pulling off the sweep. And why leave off the Bengals? They already beat KC once. Do I think they do it again, on the road this time? No. But I wouldn't praise SF offense while completely omitting the Bengals.
 

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Bro what? Buffalo didn't need a running game or balanced attack. All they needed was to not give up 40 yards in 13 seconds lol.

This weekend proved that any of these teams can beat each other. 3 of the 4 underdogs/road teams won, and the 4th was 13 seconds away from pulling off the sweep. And why leave off the Bengals? They already beat KC once. Do I think they do it again, on the road this time? No. But I wouldn't praise SF offense while completely omitting the Bengals.

The Bengals have the biggest glaring weakness of the 4 remaining teams and it's their O-Line. Their D-Line is missing Ogunjobi too so I don't know if they can even make it competitive against KC with the way that Chris Jones and Melvin Ingram are playing.
 

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Obi Toppins needs to send out an Amber Alert for his neck !
 

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Those aren't the regular season rules.

Besides, sudden death has the exact same innate "unfairness."

The chance one team gets more possessions than the other.
It be better than whatever that game was. Give both offenses a chance to score, then all bets are off. There is still going to be some level of unfairness, but it's way less glaring than what we saw on Sunday and onside kicks are a thing.
 

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