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We don't know exactly what the two did once they left to hotel, so we don't know what risk of exposure they had. There are rumors of them being with two others. If true, were they two other members of the team? Or was it merely two non affiliated friends that got together for dinner at a private house? Or...worst case...four guys out together at a large private gathering?

The answer may decide the outcome. The actual indiscretion could range from fairly stupid to greiviously dangerous. (This is apart from Clevingers attempt to avoid discovery)

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As for any reaction from Lindor, this is a far cry from the Bauer situation. This one could very well entail fines snd/or suspensions..which would bring the PA into the situation. As the player rep, Lindor should avoid commentary, as long as it is possible that PA could get involved.

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In any case my guess is that Clevinger is not much longer for Cleveland...and that is hardly an over reaction. Aside from the fact he knowingly disregarded protocol, tried to avoid discovery, and was willing to put Cookie in danger, he joined a long list of former Tribe players who openly did not fit the culture of the org...and it is the culture more than anything else that allows the Indians to remain competitive.

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In this case there is no such thing as a sincere apology for either player, but esp Clevinger.

Obviously, had they not been caught, they both were perfectly willing to endanger their team mates for the entire time that the virus runs individually. The only thing they are sorry for is that they got caught.

This cannot be framed as merely a youthful indiscretion. A youthful indescretion is when a player ends up hugging the toilet in the locker room two hours before first pitch.

Clase was caught using PEDs. He hurt the team competitively, but he didn't endanger anyone else on the Indians or any team the Indians played, and he didn't endanger an entire MLB season. He got 80 games.
 
Let's use our brains here: Mike Clevinger didn't break the team bubble to go visit Aunt Becky or have dinner with one of Zachs HS buddies. They did it for poon. Of course there were 2 others. Last day of a road trip, one last time to get some road beef. Zach probably has a side piece from home; she had a friend that wanted some sunshine. As Derek pointed out, Mike made up with his gf- one more reason to lie about going to get laid while on the road. I bet his fellow players, while also upset, might even understand. Or maybe they were smart enough to put their groupies up in the team hotel. But let's just admit what this was.
 
Somewhere.. Suzanne Dorn.. Mrs. Roger Dorn is smiling..

...or boys will be boys.. young and dumb and fu.... nvrmnd..

Trade?.. someone mentioned trade?.. can a player be considered less valuable at this point?. ....maybe there is someone else somewhere that has a "non-field" issue that may be considered not being 'their' team worthy? If it's only a matter of time...
 
JFC Clevinger isn’t a fit for this team? Please stop with the stupidity.

Bauer didn't fit the culture here, and he is gone.

Puig didn't fit the culture here. He is gone.

The same with Yandy and Mejia.
 
Bauer didn't fit the culture here, and he is gone.

Puig didn't fit the culture here. He is gone.

The same with Yandy and Mejia.

Bauer is a headcase (same with Puig). Disrespecting Tito by throwing the ball into the center field seats all but confirmed that for me.

Clevinger is a fun loving dude who just broke a rule during a "pandemic".
 
Talk about hypocrisy. Here are some remarks Clevinger made to Joe Noga just 12 days ago:

“This is a player discipline thing,” Clevinger said. “Keep the coaches and front office kind of out of it. It puts a little extra accountability, kind of. Just having that trust in your teammates is a big thing, I think.”

Clevinger went on to equate keeping the COVID-19 protocols to trusting a teammate in a game situation.

“If you feel your teammate doesn’t trust you off the field, how are you going to feel like he trusts you when you get between the lines?” Clevinger said.


So it's all about trust and accountability between teammates. Wow.

It was reported that it takes 48 hours from the time a person is exposed to when he/she becomes contagious. Since both of them were removed from the team within that time frame it's not likely anyone was infected, even if these guys were exposed.

Assuming they test negative there will be two very embarassed players speaking to their teammates and coaches in a few days. They should be lighter in the wallet as well.
 
Bauer is a headcase (same with Puig). Disrespecting Tito by throwing the ball into the center field seats all but confirmed that for me.

Clevinger is a fun loving dude who just broke a rule during a "pandemic".
Bauer had already been removed from the game. He was just getting a headstart on his long toss program before his next start.
 
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Clevinger is turning 30 and has two more years of team control, both of which are arbitration years. He's also been kind of injury prone. IOW, he's older, getting more expensive, and hurt himself twice in the last year and a half. He wasn't hit by a line drive or gashed by a drone.

I wonder if this incident will affect the way the Indians feel about trading him, possibly earlier rather than later?

"Just having that trust in your teammates is a big thing..."

Either way, highly disrespectful to a great manager.
I was just kidding. Yes, it was disrespectful and a sad way to end his career in Cleveland.
 
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Bauer is a headcase (same with Puig). Disrespecting Tito by throwing the ball into the center field seats all but confirmed that for me.

Clevinger is a fun loving dude who just broke a rule during a "pandemic".
Bauer clearly cares a whole lot more about baseball and his teammates than Clevinger does. Sure, acting out is immature, but it's also harmless.

If someone is emotionally venting, and as their manager, you focus on how that reflects on YOU, well that's just an awfully selfish worldview and very poor management. I'd hope that's not how Tito handled the situation.

Clevinger put his health, his team's health, his ability to contribute to his team, and his team's ability to play baseball all at risk. It's a giant asshole move. I don't expect us to trade him this year--but I also think he's a guy we're going to move rather than extend.
 
Bauer and Clev may be good friends, but they are not the same at all. Bauer is outspoken, but I believe he is honest and a good teammate.
I know for a fact that the Indians organization showed interest in Bauer's theories and training methods.
Clev showed his true colors and it's hard to put what he did under the rug.
 
Bauer didn't fit the culture here, and he is gone.

Puig didn't fit the culture here. He is gone.

The same with Yandy and Mejia.

Brantley, too, huh? Kluber? These guys were known dicks, right?

The market right now is one big question mark. Teams probably aren't going to be willing to offer much in trade because who the hell knows if the season even finishes. I highly doubt, even if he doesn't 'fit the culture', that he is dealt.
 
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Bauer and Clev may be good friends, but they are not the same at all. Bauer is outspoken, but I believe he is honest and a good teammate.
I know for a fact that the Indians organization showed interest in Bauer's theories and training methods.
Clev showed his true colors and it's hard to put what he did under the rug.

Yea, the modern day Dwight Gooden. Cmon lol.
 

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