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Right after some guy in here called Jimmy Butler the reincarnated Jordan (and some loser agreed), Jimmy Butts comes up shorter than a midget in game 5. Boston has all the momentum right now.
 
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Like any mediocre message board lawyer, I saved my best argument for last:


Eubanks doesn't take guff and stands his ground. He don't start shit but he don't take shit. We need more of that. I rest my case.

I can't help but notice that he two hand shoved AD and Eubanks wound up moving like 5-feet backward while AD didn't move an inch :chuckle:
 
I view the Cavs as having 4 starters and then 6 bench players are needed. 1 backup PG, 3 should be shooters, 1 big to spell Allen, 1 2/3 defender......which is Okoro. Osman and Wade didn't get it done. Pure and simple. They didn't provide enough persistent shooting. Rubio was coming off ACL. Didn't use Lopez thought we signed him.
 


between rubio and osman the cavs now have 13mm of wasted money...the chances of either 28 year old cedi osman or 33 year old double acl rubio ever becoming legit playoff rotational player is hovering around pretty close to zero...

that 13mm is money that couldve bought a legit 20 minute playoff rotational player but now the cavs in all likelihood have fukn nothing to show for it.

your guy...this koby altman character...he doest know what the fuk hes doing....just watch him now do the unthinkable(at least for people who use the theories of logic) and sign 35 year old 300 pound lopez and his surgically repaired back for 35mm+ before even trading JA.

and now the inevitable dylan windler for another 5mm to go with wades 7mm....another 12mm in the trash that couldve bought another 20 minute legit playoff rotational player...

a windler signing will now put this koby altman in what i consider full choose a better word mode...

you guys need to fire this fukn guy before he completely thrashes your once bad-ass team(prior to the mitchell trade) into a full tear down mode....

wtf?
 
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forget the 36/30.....wtf is this 2.5 fouls in 18 minutes with only 3 rebounds garbage? a foul per rebound?


cedi had very little value at 24 with these numbers..

at 28?

he has zero value in todays nba....

your guy...koby the klown.... hes just a complete fuk up....
 


between rubio and osman the cavs now have 13mm of wasted money...the chances of either 28 year old cedi osman or 33 year old double acl rubio ever becoming legit playoff rotational player is hovering around pretty close to zero...

that 13mm is money that couldve bought a legit 20 minute playoff rotational player but now the cavs in all likelihood have fukn nothing to show for it.

your guy...this koby altman character...he doest know what the fuk hes doing....just watch him now do the unthinkable(at least for people who use the theories of logic) and sign 35 year old 300 pound lopez and his surgically repaired back for 35mm+ before even trading JA.

and now the inevitable dylan windler for another 5mm to go with wades 7mm....another 12mm in the trash that couldve bought another 20 minute legit playoff rotational player...

a windler signing will now put this koby altman in what i consider full retard mode...

you guys need to fire this fukn guy before he completely thrashes your once bad-ass team(prior to the mitchell trade) into a full tear down mode....

wtf?

In September/October/November you were incessantly talking about the Cavs being a world-class organization thanks to Koby. Now you won’t stop talking about how the Cavs should fire Koby.

September 25th, 2022:

no...its 16/1 to win.....depending on who they meet up with....could be 8/1 to get there...

i see a lot of people worrying about the three and i was one of them.....but i think you need ot give clevelands world class management the benefit of the doubt as they have done an incredible job building this fukn bad-ass team in just three years....a team wiht arguably four all-stars...still 2.5mm under the cap. and like both rj and perk say.....that fifth player....maybe it "doesnt matter" so much...


you look at the 2002-3 spurs...one all star but an elite defense....one of those defenders being bruce bowen....if okoro can get to a 108 defensive rating...shoot 40 percent from the corner three and make an improvement to his already legit nba-level open-court/ transitional offensive game....mobely gets to 20/10 on 50/35 splits....this team....imo....doesnt need anything else and if they do nothing that the trade deadline might not resolve.

I’m not even mad. Honestly quite impressive.
 
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In September/October/November you were incessantly talking about the Cavs being a world-class organization thanks to Koby. Now you won’t stop talking about how the Cavs should fire Koby.

September 25th, 2022:



I’m not even mad. Honestly quite impressive.
pretty impressive that you just failed to mention the importance of what i hoped out of both isaac okoro and evan mobely offensively nor did you mention the mitchell trade....which i am saying could go down as one of the worst trades of the 2020s should lauri crack open a 25/10 next year...which is very likely taking into consideration the three first round picks that ainge bent over koby for and what danny is going to do wiht those in free agency this year. and if mitchell is still on the team and busts open another 30 from the three in teh playoffs?...that being three consecutive years in a row?

and i have it 50/50 that mitchell asks out this summer after the cavs inevitably fail in free agency

and if i remember correctly didnt you compare harrison barnes...who i correctly suggested needed to be traded for in place of kevin love...to travis outlaw? and you also said that harrison would be the 9th man in the cavalier rotation? to make matters worse you said that barnes would be only worth one single second round pick relative to loves 30mm contract?

im here right now saying that you guys are in a position of fukd and everyone that undestands basketball knows it. the one assumption was that the cavs would swap cedis salary and have 19mm to spend....now they are at 12mm....which is not going to get you jack shit with the holes the size of the titanic on your current roster. holes after koby the klown went all in on mitchell...without injuries, a league suspension, an unexpected jordan retirement or a chris bosh health situation to account for said fukd position.....

youre in a position of fuked because of koby altman


do you really think that you guys are still in the game?...after Koby the Klown came out with that ricky rubio FIBA garbage?

seriously?


that is right there with saying that harrison barnes was only worth one single second round pick in addition to saying that barnes would be the ninth(9th) guy in the cavalier rotation.
 
Oh for fuck's sake with the lack of Harrison Barnes trade. He was a major reason the Kings lost in the first round.

28 minutes a game, shot only 24% from three and grabbed only 3.4 rebounds. In advanced metrics, both his offensive and defensive box plus/minus were a zero point zero.

In short, he's a non factor yet we can't go a week without the same poster championing him as the missing link to a different Cavaliers playoff series.

Enough already. Find a new source for pompous self importance. Barnes ain't it.
 
why are you arguing with me?......

you and everyone here should be pissed off as fuk for what is about to inevitably happen this summer. i posted that position piece from the guy on the realgm forum RE altmans failures.....you still believe some miracle is going to happen in the next 90 days?

after what it appears to Koby already fuking up by resigning a worthless cedi osman?

ffs, man....everyone here that understands basketball knows that its another 7mm down a cleveland drain...
 
Oh for fuck's sake with the lack of Harrison Barnes trade. He was a major reason the Kings lost in the first round.

28 minutes a game, shot only 24% from three and grabbed only 3.4 rebounds. In advanced metrics, both his offensive and defensive box plus/minus were a zero point zero.

In short, he's a non factor yet we can't go a week without the same poster championing him as the missing link to a different Cavaliers playoff series.

Enough already. Find a new source for pompous self importance. Barnes ain't it.

hes not a missing link....

but hes sure as shit worth more that what kevin love gave them...



 
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