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Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

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For those who are tempted to go back to making Jamarcus/Ryan Leaf comparisons and are worried that he might not be the guy:

The offense's weighted DVOA still ranks 17th - 19th for passing, 7th for rushing. Incidentally, the defense is also 17th and the special teams are 16th, so everyone's about as average as you can get; that "balance" puts the team's weighted DVOA at 13th and non-weighted at 14th, just a slight drop from 11th last week.

Baker's DYAR was 24th this past week, off from the 11th/13th/9th type weeks before but not worst-in-league bad.

Don't let completion %s and traditional passer rating, which lack the context of opposing defenses, lead you to think Baker is the problem. Andrew Luck's rookie completion % was worse than Weeden's...
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
Did you watch that Ballard of Mayfield that was posted? It was a good watch and explained that Mayfield’s mechanics help contribute to the pressure by taking longer than most QBs to finish his drop back and results in a deeper drop back that gives edge rushers easier angles to rush the passer

I’ll be honest and say I don’t know nearly enough about QB mechanics to really comment on its ramifications. @I’mWithDan @AZ_ did you either of you watch the video? Any commentary about if this is changeable at this point or if it’s something that just has to be accepted (the guy in the video basically said at this point it’s set in stone)
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I think a lot of Mayfield's problems are just footwork. And footwork can be fixed or corrected to a large degree. Quickening a drop, setting your feet quicker, squaring to your target......they're all things that can be easily repped and corrected, it is just about a coach making it a priority and drilling it in to Baker with a combination of reps / results.

Mayfield could also use a coach that teaches more disciplined sliding and climbing in the pocket. Our offensive line isn't good but Baker has made things worse by leaning on some old college habits. There have been times where sliding left or right and resetting or climbing to allow the OL to flush the pressure out the backside would have bought time and throwing windows to make a play.

One of the things a lot of young QB's run in to, with early success, is getting a little sloppy with things like footwork and pocket movement. They get too confident in their ability and need a coach to steer them back on track. I think the issue this year has been that Freddie isn't a good PC and I'm not sure Lindley is any good either, at fundamental correction.

There's enough data and enough film out there on Baker to drive home that this is, pretty glaringly, a coaching issue. Obviously the player is executing some bad habits and should share some blame but it is garden variety stuff that any good QB developer could wring out of him IMO.
 
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I'mWithDan said:
I think a lot of Mayfield's problems are just footwork. And footwork can be fixed or corrected to a large degree. Quickening a drop, setting your feet quicker, squaring to your target......they're all things that can be easily repped and corrected, it is just about a coach making it a priority and drilling it in to Baker with a combination of reps / results.

Mayfield could also use a coach that teaches more disciplined sliding and climbing in the pocket. Our offensive line isn't good but Baker has made things worse by leaning on some old college habits. There have been times where sliding left or right and resetting or climbing to allow the OL to flush the pressure out the backside would have bought time and throwing windows to make a play.

One of the things a lot of young QB's run in to, with early success, is getting a little sloppy with things like footwork and pocket movement. They get too confident in their ability and need a coach to steer them back on track. I think the issue this year has been that Freddie isn't a good PC and I'm not sure Lindley is any good either.

There's enough data and enough film out there on Baker to drive home that this is, pretty glaringly, a coaching issue. Obviously the player is executing some bad habits and should share some blame but it is garden variety stuff that any good QB developer could wring out of him IMO.
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I'm gonna be beating the drum for Jim Caldwell for the rest of the season.

He had Joe Flacco playing so well in the one season he had with him that he looked like an MVP, won the Super Bowl, and got him a $120 million dollar contract extension.

Joe Flacco.

If he can do that to Joe Flacco, he'll turn Baker Mayfield into Peyton Manning but with Jeff George's arm. #Caldwell2020
 
Arketebel said:
Is the solution as easy as running more play action, or is it somehow more complex?
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Well, it worked really well for us last year when we turned it around. Its worked really well for us this year when we've done it. So, in a sense, yes it is that simple. We run it and it works, because defenses have to respect the ability of Nick Chubb and now Kareem Hunt as well and put an extra defender close to the line of scrimmage so they don't gash you.

However, the problem is that we completely go away from the run in the second half even with a lead, so if we throw it every play for 3 drives straight and then try to run play action, is anyone actually going to keep a safety near the line to defend the run? Is anyone going to be fooled by the fake if we actually call play action when we haven't run the ball for several straight possessions? If we would have a more balanced offense consistently in both halves, and then use play action to make defenders cheat up to the line of scrimmage, we'd have more opportunities down field more often. Why we're not doing this only Freddie knows. Its a huge reason people want him gone as this isn't exactly rocket surgery.
 
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