Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

[GreasySpread36]

Browns threads just become completely unbearable after losses. Jesus, what a shitshow in here.

It's way worse on other boards, and I mean way worse.

 

[benchplayer]

I'm still not ready to give up on baker who's just in his second year with a bad o-line. Hell, some HOF quarterbacks weren't even a starter their second year and others sat for years behind a vet. What I see right now is a quarterback that doesn't trust his front line, which is justified.

 

[NorthCoastBias]

I just can't buy the "it's only his second year" excuse when there are many recent examples of quality young QBs (Wentz, Goff, Watson, Mahomes) who took huge leaps in their second seasons.

 

[bob2the2nd]

I just can't buy the "it's only his second year" excuse when there are many recent examples of quality young QBs (Wentz, Goff, Watson, Mahomes) who took huge leaps in their second seasons.

Mahomes didn't play as a rookie, Watson looked great as a rookie till he got injured, and goffs numbers his second year are basically equal to bakers first year.

I had a huge post about this before the start of the season but most successful rookie quarterbacks do not improve from year 1 to 2.

Russell didn't, luck didn't, Prescott didn't, Newton didn't. Peyton manning got better in the he cut his interceptions in half (28 to 14) but the rest of his numbers were similar.

Manning, Russell, and Luck are the next 3 on most touchdowns by a rookie quarterback list.

 

[6.19.2016]

I get that dunking on Baker is the national pastime now, but shouldn't Ratbirds/Lamar fans sit this one out for now because, you know, scoreboard?

 

[Huber.]

2/10, but only cause I am not hungry.

If I re-read in the morning before I've eaten breakfast and actually want a bagel, probably 8/10.

It's morning. Steak egg and cheese Bagel Mayfield sounds good. One so thicc you need a toothpick flag in the middle.

 

[shoes22]

I get that dunking on Baker is the national pastime now, but shouldn't Ratbirds/Lamar fans sit this one out for now because, you know, scoreboard?

It’s a valid point though. I’ve always been on the “Lamar is overrated and an average QB at best” train, but the fact is he is much, much better dealing with pressure and line breakdowns than Baker is this season. A lot of that is probably due to Jackson’s running ability, but Baker is panicking out there and consistently making poor decisions under pressure.

 

[AZ_]

Shhhhh can’t talk about it.

Lamar is a RB.

 

[Triplethreat]

Color me shocked that the guy who is faster had a better rating under pressure...

WHO WOULD’VE KNOWN.

he’s still playing like complete and utter dog shit the last 3 weeks. just a middling QB at best going forward.

 

[AZ_]

Color me shocked that the guy who is faster had a better rating under pressure...

WHO WOULD’VE KNOWN.

he’s still playing like complete and utter dog shit the last 3 weeks. just a middling QB at best going forward.

Youre gonna die on this hill no matter how dumb it sounds, huh?

 

[6.19.2016]

Mahomes didn't play as a rookie, Watson looked great as a rookie till he got injured, and goffs numbers his second year are basically equal to bakers first year.

I had a huge post about this before the start of the season but most successful rookie quarterbacks do not improve from year 1 to 2.

Russell didn't, luck didn't, Prescott didn't, Newton didn't. Peyton manning got better in the he cut his interceptions in half (28 to 14) but the rest of his numbers were similar.

Manning, Russell, and Luck are the next 3 on most touchdowns by a rookie quarterback list.

Mahomes did play a bit and look good. Russ won a Super Bowl his 2nd year (I know, Legion of Boom obliterated the GOAT Denver offense and others, but he did his part to ensure the offense overpowered everyone, too.) Goff is barely older than Baker, which matters at least a bit in this equation.

It's frustrating that we can legitimately discuss whether Baker "lost his edge" and/or "let the fame get to his head" ...

It’s a valid point though. I’ve always been on the “Lamar is overrated and an average QB at best” train, but the fact is he is much, much better dealing with pressure< and line breakdowns than Baker is this season. A lot of that is probably due to Jackson’s running ability, but Baker is panicking out there and consistently making poor decisions under pressure.

I get that, but again, and to defend Baker again for a moment, Lamar just got embarrassed head-to-head in a "fair fight" - 2nd year QBs with comparable supporting casts. Baker barely lost the last one with an iffy fumble call.

Again, another bad look for a fanbase that also idolizes Ray Lewis and supports a stolen team (while still demanding "muh history.")

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Color me shocked that the guy who is faster had a better rating under pressure...

WHO WOULD’VE KNOWN.

he’s still playing like complete and utter dog shit the last 3 weeks. just a middling QB at best going forward.

What does being faster have to do with throwing the ball under pressure?

 

[Phil Mixtape]

I just had an epiphany. I think this garbage play from Mayfield is all part of an elaborate scheme. First, he needs to get every fan and media member to think last year was just a flash in the pan and that what we're seeing this year is the real Baker. Let the hate build a while, and then bang, hit everyone with a fuck you and the Browns make the playoffs and go on a run. I see you Bake . . .

 

[Triplethreat]

What does being faster have to do with throwing the ball under pressure?

Because once Lamar is under pressure doesn’t mean he’s staying under pressure.

also about 75% of the time he is pressured he just takes off for a positive gain because his legs allow him too.

that seriously inflated his statistics in that regard.

 

[AZ_]

Because once Lamar is under pressure doesn’t mean he’s staying under pressure.

also about 75% of the time he is pressured he just takes off for a positive gain because his legs allow him too.

that seriously inflated his statistics in that regard.

Its almost like his elite athleticism provides him an advantage over the competition.