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The Baker Mayfield Thread: Feeling Dangerous

amil99

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On another note he’s leaving a lot of yards on the field by not even attempting to scramble for yards there’s been multiple times this year that he had room to run but refused to go pass the line of scrimmage and held on to the ball only to make a forced throw or throwaway idk if it’s because he did get “fat” like people are saying but last year he used his legs
 

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And yet his low passing IQ and rough mechanics provide him with a mediocre level of play and cieling.
"Low IQ"

Of course, the standard stereotype.

What is an argument against athletic QBs without it?


His QB rating under pressure would suggest that Mayfield, not Jackson, is the one playing with a low IQ. And Jackson, once again, has the athletic advantage over top of it.

But we know these facts and statistics won't sway your opinion away from brainless stereotypes.
 
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Two things
1. Has anyone noticed that Baker got fat?
2. Has anyone noticed he only scrambles right?
The scrambling to the right is way more obvious. He never scramble to the left anymore which is weird.

Also someone brought it up, he never use his legs anymore to get yardage. Last year, i still remember him running to get positive yardage but now it's all scrambling to the right or to the back.
 

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So pretty surprisingly PFF still has him ranked the 15th best QB with a grade of 71.2

right behind Lamar who grades at 72.2
Seems right to me. His basement is league average, when things aren't clicking. It's also the reason people shouldn't just flat out give up on him. He just has too much talent to fail if the rest of the shit show around him gets cleaned up. Too much arm talent, too much accuracy, too much good film out there.

The league got an off-season to dismantle his entire game and scheme towards short circuiting his strengths. Similar to the progression Favre went through, he now needs to make adjustments and put DC's back on their heels a bit. Our head coach could help in that process too by mixing up tendencies on down and distance, as well as route combinations. We need more release valve routes and we have to be better about picking our spots downfield. Baker also needs to be better at trusting his eyes and just reacting.....vs. trying to see guys open.

Someone mentioned it earlier but given their play styles, Favre would seem to be the glass half full view on Mayfield at this point. Brett saw a dramatic statical swing in the red in year 2 as a full time player......not unlike what Baker is seeing through 5 games.

1992: 64% completion, 3227 yards, 18 TD's, 13 INT's, 2.8% INT, 6.9 YPA, 85.3 rating
1993: 60% completion, 3303 yards, 19 TD's, 24 INT's, 4.6% INT, 6.3 YPA, 72.2 rating

Favre's and Mayfield's INT% increases are very similar. 72% for Mayfield, 63% for Favre. Mayfield's rating gap is a bit larger but still both were large drops.

The one large concern is Baker's sack rate is astronomical. 1 sack per 10 pass attempts. That rate has doubled this season vs. last. I don't know if anyone has done protection analysis on sacks but even if you throw out half of that increase as Baker's fault, it still intimates we have some pretty horrific protection problems.
 

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Fuck Baker, leading the charge of my 1-4 fantasy team with clunker after clunker. -2 points this past game. -2 points by a guy that has the ball every snap!!!! One of the worst individual fantasy week's I probably experienced from that position. What a fucking clown right now, I'm a fucking clown for believing in that clown. Please guys, next year, when it comes to talking fantasy, post speeches about not being a homer.

Fantasy games will make you hate your own hometown guys.

With that said, our QB is so fucking trash right now and you have every right to be concerned, furious, any kind of negative emotion. He doesn't perform well vs the better team right now. No excuses for the fuck.
 

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Fuck Baker, leading the charge of my 1-4 fantasy team with clunker after clunker. -2 points this past game. -2 points by a guy that has the ball every snap!!!! One of the worst individual fantasy week's I probably experienced from that position. What a fucking clown right now, I'm a fucking clown for believing in that clown. Please guys, next year, when it comes to talking fantasy, post speeches about not being a homer.

Fantasy games will make you hate your own hometown guys.

With that said, our QB is so fucking trash right now and you have every right to be concerned, furious, any kind of negative emotion. He doesn't perform well vs the better team right now. No excuses for the fuck.
The thing about Fantasy Football is that its your decision whether or not to start someone.

Unless your league consists of about 28 teams, starting Baker Mayfield is something which should be considered user error, at this point.

For what its worth, my Fantasy Football QB is Lamar Jackson.
 

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The thing about Fantasy Football is that its your decision whether or not to start someone.

Unless your league consists of about 28 teams, starting Baker Mayfield is something which should be considered user error, at this point.

For what its worth, my Fantasy Football QB is Lamar Jackson.
There's probably a reason his team is 1-4. :chuckle:
 
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