The Brian Hoyer thread...

[CommD]

What is your thesis here... validation that Farmer makes great roster decisions?

Nope, my thesis is that Hoyer is a choker. I thought so then, and think so now. Nothing more than that.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Nope, my thesis is that I was a huge Carolina supporter, and I need to take my frustrations out somewhere. Nothing more than that.

Fixed.

Lots of reasons Hoyer had a bad playoff game. Lots of reasons Cam Newton had a bad Super Bowl. There's the supporting cast, the opponent, health. Choking in the big moment might have a grain of truth to it, but I'm usually more interested in talking big picture. BTW, Cam was great all season. He is taking it on the chin in the media today, but it's important to look at the complete body of work.

 

[CommD]

HOU released Hoyer. Next team up!

 

[Randolphkeys]

The Cleveland based Johnny Football fans must feel a tremendous sense of vindication. Enjoy fellas, you nailed it!

 

[Ohio]

 

[ajz20]

The Cleveland based Johnny Football fans must feel a tremendous sense of vindication. Enjoy fellas, you nailed it!

But what about the Connor shaw fans? How do they react?

 

[Randolphkeys]

But what about the Connor shaw fans? How do they react?

I met Connor Shaw's fan once, drinking a beer at an Irish bar. He was a really nice guy!

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

I met Connor Shaw's fan once, drinking a beer at an Irish bar. He was a really nice guy!

Connor Shaw is the type of guy to walk in on you fucking his wife on his bed and apologize for interrupting.

I can tell by his lack of arm strength.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Hoyer is going to play for somebody this season. He might be waiting things out like Fitzpatrick did last off season to find the best opportunity for playing time.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/07/pro-pffs-2015-nfl-quarterback-rankings/

Tier three
17. Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 71.8

Winston lived up to his boom-or-bust reputation, finishing seventh in big-time throw (BTT) percentage at 6.02 percent, but sixth in turnover-worthy play (TWP) percentage, at 5.09 percent.

18. Blake Bortles, Jacksonville Jaguars, 69.7

Bortles took big strides in his second year, taking advantage of downfield playmakers to lead the league with 1,330 yards on deep passes. Similar to Winston, Bortles was boom-or-bust, with 35 BTTs and a league-high 38 TWPs.

19. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins, 73.4

A disappointing fourth-year for Tannehill, who posted the lowest grade of his career and finished with the 13th-highest percentage of turnover-worthy throws, at 4.00 percent.

20. Brock Osweiler, Denver Broncos, 71.3

Osweiler had some positive moments in his first extended action as a starter, finishing right in the middle in accuracy percentage, at 73.4 percent (18th of 37 qualifiers).

21. Brian Hoyer, Houston Texans, 70.6

After settling in as the Texans’ starter, Hoyer put together a few strong games, though he finished 30th in accuracy percentage, at 70.5 percent.

22. Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs, 70.2

It’s the same story for Smith, who does a nice job of taking care of the ball (fifth-lowest turnover-worthy play percentage, at 2.47 percent) but 24 QBs had more than his 17 big-time throws.

23. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions, 69.8

Split the season in half, and you get two different stories. Second-half Stafford was one of the league’s best, but he ranked dead last among QBs for the first eight games of the year.

24. Eli Manning, New York Giants, 67.5

Manning had his moments, but overall, he received good interception luck (fourth-most TWPs at 30, only 14 interceptions) and incredible play from Odell Beckham Jr. certainly helped his cause.

25. Ryan Fitzpatrick, New York Jets, 59.6

It was a very similar season for Fitzpatrick, who put the ball in harm’s way quite a bit (32 TWPs), but finished with only 15 interceptions. He did a fine job making plays as a scrambler, finishing with a 92.6 grade on the ground.

26. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens, 68.5

It was not a great start to the season for Flacco before getting hurt in Week 11. His grade when pressured was the fifth-worst in the league.

27. Marcus Mariota, Tennessee Titans, 64.5

There’s a lot to like about Mariota’s skillset and using his quick release and athleticism in the NFL, but he has to improve his downfield accuracy percentage (20.4 percent, ranked last in the league).

28. Josh McCown, Cleveland Browns, 64.3

McCown performed well in challenging areas, such as under pressure and on third down, but he also made a number of questionable decisions along the way, finishing 10th in TWP percentage, at 4.51 percent.


...Johnny Manziel finished second to last in the article, RG3 failed to place.

 

[Randolphkeys]

The quarterback with the best win percentage since 1999 is balling his ass off this season.

 

[PIP]

He's just so difficult to get a beat on... The talent is there but the consistency and results are not.... Hoyer and the Browns were a perfect match but both are just a little off center

 

[Randolphkeys]

He's just so difficult to get a beat on... The talent is there but the consistency and results are not.... Hoyer and the Browns were a perfect match but both are just a little off center

I have no excuse for his meltdown in the playoffs last year. Aside from that horrid performance, he as clearly shown a lot the past two seasons since leaving the Browns. In the meantime... consider what you have been watching. Believing McCown can remain healthy never added up, but I feel like the hollow vindication does me little. I won't even mention the rest of the options because at this point Clevelanders won't admit to voicing support for them.

Good for Hoyer landing in a spot that looked promising, lost all their offensive weapons to injury, but kept the numbers up. I'm getting a lot of "you were right" emails from my Chicago peeps tonight.

 

[GonzoRatso88]

I have no excuse for his meltdown in the playoffs last year. Aside from that horrid performance, he as clearly shown a lot the past two seasons since leaving the Browns. In the meantime... consider what you have been watching. Believing McCown can remain healthy never added up, but I feel like the hollow vindication does me little. I won't even mention the rest of the options because at this point Clevelanders won't admit to voicing support for them.

Good for Hoyer landing in a spot that looked promising, lost all their offensive weapons to injury, but kept the numbers up. I'm getting a lot of "you were right" emails from my Chicago peeps tonight.

He would've been the perfect bridge QB....

 

[Surge]

I have no excuse for his meltdown in the playoffs last year. Aside from that horrid performance, he as clearly shown a lot the past two seasons since leaving the Browns. In the meantime... consider what you have been watching. Believing McCown can remain healthy never added up, but I feel like the hollow vindication does me little. I won't even mention the rest of the options because at this point Clevelanders won't admit to voicing support for them.

Good for Hoyer landing in a spot that looked promising, lost all their offensive weapons to injury, but kept the numbers up. I'm getting a lot of "you were right" emails from my Chicago peeps tonight.

Hoyer would be on IR if he were still here.

I mean we have every qb that has taken a snap with some sort of injury.

What do you think he could have done to avoid being broken in half?

 

[ChicagoCavFan]

Locals loving him now...but a lot of skepticism up front. I kept telling em that he has game, and you'll appreciate him after the shitshow that is Cutler. Knew I'd be proven correct, as the Bears could've ran out Trump post-Cutler and Democratic-leaning Chicago would love him.