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The Jarvis Landry Thread: Bless 'Em

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Out of concussion protocol, back to practice, looks like he will playing Monday.

So we have Juice back, Calloway back and maybe Higgins.

We might have our full compliment of WR's for the first time, this could be fun.
Huge. 49ers take advantage of teams’ third and fourth receivers. They force QBs to throw to them and run complex zone schemes to force turnovers on the center and right side of the field. Baker having the full compliment of receivers, plus Chubb and Seals-Jones, should be immensely helpful.
 
Huge. 49ers take advantage of teams’ third and fourth receivers. They force QBs to throw to them and run complex zone schemes to force turnovers on the center and right side of the field. Baker having the full compliment of receivers, plus Chubb and Seals-Jones, should be immensely helpful.

Hilliard plays allot on 3rd downs and has proven to be almost as good as Duke, don't want to forget my man Hilliard.
 
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Well I certainly don’t view it as irrational and I don’t think looking at historical trends is the best way to look at it

Last season there were 13 1100 yard receivers and 3 TEs to do it.

Teams with multiple were:
Steelers
Chiefs
Rams

Those teams ranked 2nd, 3rd, and 5th in passing yards in the NFL.

In 2017 no team accomplished it and only 9 receivers total made it over the 1,100 yard mark

It’s not a small accomplishment and rather rare to have 2

Which brings me to my main point, the majority of Jarvis’ historical averages have come as the primary receiving option. I think as a #2 (over a larger sample size than 4 games) that average will drop. Mayfield has a lot of options and he likes to spread the ball around. Jarvis won’t get the volume he had over his career where he posted those averages. theres a lot of counters to that about better QB, different offense, etc but I’d be surprised if you didn’t agree that expecting 9 targets per game (his career average) over the last 12 games probably won’t happen

I view it as much less likely than a coin flip, but Vegas winnings/losings don’t go to RCF :)

Mayfield is on pace for 4,600 passing yards.....an he's had a minimum of 30 attempts in every game.

Landry / Beckham account for 55% of that pace yardage through 4 games. They also account for 50% of the target share.

If that pace holds, it's 2,530 yards split between them. So OBJ would have to have a huge, huge season to wrestle away those yards.

Certainly a lot of factors at play here but the current pace says we can comfortably accomodate two 1,100 yard pass catchers given our passing volume and the majority of those targets going to those two players.
 
Landry / Beckham account for 55% of that pace yardage through 4 games.
Higgins, Callaway should eat into to that. And good chance Njoku and Hunt eat into it some more.
 
Higgins, Callaway should eat into to that. And good chance Njoku and Hunt eat into it some more.

Sure. I'm just arguing the math is there.

It will pull back but they have paced so well through 4 games that it's more 50/50 to me.

The 2018 Rams threw for a similar yardage total we're on pace for through 4 games, and they supported (2) 1,200 yard wideouts.

The big factor for Landry having a shot at it will be his YPC numbers staying above his career averages. Because he will likely not see a large volume of targets compared to past years......but if he's in the 14 ish range, he only needs around 80 catches to do it.
 
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Sure. I'm just arguing the math is there.

It will pull back but they have paced so well through 4 games that it's more 50/50 to me.

The 2018 Rams threw for a similar yardage total we're on pace for through 4 games, and they supported (2) 1,200 yard wideouts.

The big factor for Landry having a shot at it will be his YPC numbers staying above his career averages. Because he will likely not see a large volume of targets compared to past years......but if he's in the 14 ish range, he only needs around 80 catches to do it.
The Rams wideouts were more even in my eyes though and as such both got right around the same amount. I view Beckham as substantially better than Landry and I think in addition to what @col63onel states with more competent mouths to feed, I don’t think the current 53/47 split of targets amongst Landry and Beckham stays so close. I think the targets that the returning players get will disproportionately come from Landry over Beckham. I just don’t view it as an equal partnership back there, Odell is much better and should get much more targets.
 
How close is Jarvis to being top 10 in receiving yards in Browns history? It's gotta be getting close, right?
 
How close is Jarvis to being top 10 in receiving yards in Browns history? It's gotta be getting close, right?

Actually he's pretty far off. If you are only counting his time with the Browns he has roughly 1300 yards with us. To get into the top 10 he'll need to get past 4208 yards that was gained by the great and famous Milt Morin.
 
How close is Jarvis to being top 10 in receiving yards in Browns history? It's gotta be getting close, right?

Just short of 3,000 yards away.

So yeah, definitely.
 
Big game for him tonight. I would think he'll get reps going against Sherman on the left side of the field, and he needs to be able to punish a thin secondary on the plays where OBJ is on Sherman's side.
 
How close is Jarvis to being top 10 in receiving yards in Browns history? It's gotta be getting close, right?

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I actually wasn't trolling, legit thought that 2500 yards or so was top 10.
 
That's a pretty sad top 10 then lol

Hopefully OBJ and Jarvis can make it look better
 
That's a pretty sad top 10 then lol

Hopefully OBJ and Jarvis can make it look better

When you think about it, since the Browns moved in '96 it's been 20+ years of a QB and WR turnstile. Our best WRs would last about 4-5 max if that. Prior to last year, our passing game has generally been downright atrocious in what is known as the greatest passing era in league history.

Remove the last 22-23 years from any team's receiving records and most aren't going to look that great.
 

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