The Kevin Stefanski: Two-Time Coach of the Year Thread

[CBBI]

I've accused Stefanski of lacking a feel for the game, and being kind of sterile and disconnected/detached, in some of our dismal losses this season and I still believe that. But against Tampa, credit where credit is due. In this game it felt to me like KS was fully engaged and aware of the total picture, and he handled a lot of decisions as though he had a really good gut feel for what it was going to take to get the win.

I see this as a game where he grew as a head coach versus being the glorified offensive coordinator. I see that as a hopeful development.

What's funny is that I thought it was his worst game of the season

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Njoku and Hunt aren't superstars like Garrett. OBJ's situation and Watson's situation (prior to the allegations) are more reliable indicators. They wanted out and they got out. Contracts don't mean shit when you're a money maker.

I really don’t agree at all. Your original post said it was a PR nightmare and would scare away potential free agents. Do those potential free agents just not view Njoku or Hunt as people? Why would they be totally ok with those 2 guys basically being told “tough stuff” but would be outraged if it was Garrett? When in reality any free agent we sign is much more likely to be Njoku or Hunt caliber than Garrett, id think those 2 are more important in terms of free agency reputation since no one nearly as good as Garrett is coming in free agency

I’d consider Aaron Rodgers a superstar. Green Bay didn’t budge. Different sport, but Durant is still a Net. Contracts mean something if you want them to

 

[chrisrich91]

I've accused Stefanski of lacking a feel for the game, and being kind of sterile and disconnected/detached, in some of our dismal losses this season and I still believe that. But against Tampa, credit where credit is due. In this game it felt to me like KS was fully engaged and aware of the total picture, and he handled a lot of decisions as though he had a really good gut feel for what it was going to take to get the win.

I see this as a game where he grew as a head coach versus being the glorified offensive coordinator. I see that as a hopeful development.

I’m more on this wavelength than thinking something changed with Stefanski this week.

 

[Surge]

Tampa Bay has the 7th ranked scoring defense at 18.5 ppg. It was never going to be easy to score on them. We had the third highest point total against their defense this year. KC scored 41 and Baltimore scored 27. They’ve only given up 20 or more points 5 times.

Oh I agree Tampa has a great defense. And it wouldn't concern me if this was the only game we went long stretches without being able to scored a touchdown, but it's not.

I guess we'll see if adding Deshaun helps fix it.

 

[CBBI]

I’m more on this wavelength than thinking something changed with Stefanski this week.

Not only that, but I thought Stefanski was oddly conservative in ways he hasn't really been this season multiple times in the game.

Running on 2nd and long. Throwing short routes on 3rd and long. Punting on 4th and 3 from the 48.

I get that ultimately the NFL is a results oriented business, but the Bucs game was really the first time this season where I felt like the overall process was bad and the results came anyway.

There have been quite a few other games where I felt the process was good and the results, unfortunately, didn't come to fruition.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Not only that, but I thought Stefanski was oddly conservative in ways he hasn't really been this season multiple times in the game.

Running on 2nd and long. Throwing short routes on 3rd and long. Punting on 4th and 3 from the 48.

I get that ultimately the NFL is a results oriented business, but the Bucs game was really the first time this season where I felt like the overall process was bad and the results came anyway.

There have been quite a few other games where I felt the process was good and the results, unfortunately, didn't come to fruition.

I'm with you, and if we lose that game, I think the odds of buzzdog typing that post are exactly 0%.

Feels like the definition of ignoring process and reacting to a result.

 

[Los216]

Not only that, but I thought Stefanski was oddly conservative in ways he hasn't really been this season multiple times in the game.

Running on 2nd and long. Throwing short routes on 3rd and long. Punting on 4th and 3 from the 48.

I get that ultimately the NFL is a results oriented business, but the Bucs game was really the first time this season where I felt like the overall process was bad and the results came anyway.

There have been quite a few other games where I felt the process was good and the results, unfortunately, didn't come to fruition.

Bad weather, missed FG, and respect for the opposing defense probably played a factor.

 

[tristan+kyrie=$]

 

[CBBI]

It's certainly not a hot take at all to say this is both the best running game and the best offensive line that's Watson's ever played with.

This is an offense that should have explosive capabilities.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

It's certainly not a hot take at all to say this is both the best running game and the best offensive line that's Watson's ever played with.

This is an offense that should have explosive capabilities.

It's also the best receiving corps he's had since the Texans got rid of Nuk.

It's also the best offensive system and playcalling he's ever played in.

The list goes on. There are lots of reasons for optimism.

 

[Vee-Rex]

It's also the best receiving corps he's had since the Texans got rid of Nuk.

It's also the best offensive system and playcalling he's ever played in.

The list goes on. There are lots of reasons for optimism.

Yes, even with that said... Amari with Watson? Wooooo boy that's going to be a problem for defenses.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Yes, even with that said... Amari with Watson? Wooooo boy that's going to be a problem for defenses.

It can be.

I think Browns fans have been insulated from the full Amari experience due to Jacoby's limitations. We got a taste of it with that 4th down drop and nearly 100% of Browns Twitter was flabbergasted, as if that's the first time in Amari's career he's been inconsistent or just a walking brain fart.

When he's on, his route running isn't far off Antonio Brown at his peak--and it's been that way since he was at Alabama. But Amari's always been inconsistent and capricious--both with the Raiders and the Cowboys. I expect the full Amari to raise its head with Watson.

 

[southernflyer]

As a WR/TE core, we don't have the Texan's '19 Hopkins/Fuller/Stills/Fells or '20s Hopkins/Cooks/Fuller/Stills w/ Duke catching out of the backfield. A solid #2 to slid DPJ to #3 would be really beneficial.

Have we had any developmental advances at the WR position in the past few years, where you can look at rookie and end of year 3 from a WR and see solid growth?

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Have we had any developmental advances at the WR position in the past few years, where you can look at rookie and end of year 3 from a WR and see solid growth?

DPJ

 

[buzzdog]

What's funny is that I thought it was his worst game of the season

Yet we won, and you thought he did great in some of our mind boggling losses.