The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

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Cavatt

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Yeah, Jon getting sentenced to the Wall for committing a good deed is insane. All to “prevent a war” yeah okay.... there’s what 5,000 Unsullied at most left?
Yeah unsullied fight to the death and everything, but what exactly would they be fighting for? Gonna complain to HR because your leader who just committed war crimes is dead?

One thing to have a foreign army when you are next in line from the throne and have been exiled, but she wasn't, and then she was dead. The unsullied are treated like they get equal say, and that is just silly.

That whole part at Winterfell where everyone loves Jon and not her and she feels insecure seems pretty odd in retrospect, when everyobody is on the same page to the extent that Jon should be sent to the wall at the end? LIek she has severely waning support when she goes into the last battle. Her advisors have all abandoned her, Jorah is dead, and all Jon has support of the North, the free folk, while no one besides those same people support Dany. They made it a reason for her to burn everybody which sort of makes sense, but then everyone but her most loyal should have turned their backs right?

The free folk and North(including riverlands) which still greatly outnumber the unsullied are going to let them call the shots? It is so fucking stupid. The way things ended would have only made sense if Draco burned Jon to a crisp. OR he could have tried to burn Jon and he could have been immune to fire or something.
 
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Never mind the fact that there is no point in going to the Wall anymore.

Also, I guess you gotta think of the fact that the Greyjoys, Dorne, and Highgarden were sworn to Daenerys. So perhaps if they just let Jon go free then you'd have other issues.

Anyway, out of my many s8 complaints, I guess my biggest is that, even giving them leeway for only having a few episodes to do what they wanted to do and have Dany go mad, they were AWFUL about showing it.

Like all of the things she was "paranoid" about were actually happening lol. She wasn't eating because she knew Varys was trying to poison her. She was distrustful of Sansa because Sansa isn't trustworthy. She threw Tyrion in jail for betraying her because..Tyrion betrayed her lol.

So, I mean.....you need to actually show her being nuts about shit if you then want people to believe she is, in fact, nuts.
 

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Never mind the fact that there is no point in going to the Wall anymore.

Also, I guess you gotta think of the fact that the Greyjoys, Dorne, and Highgarden were sworn to Daenerys. So perhaps if they just let Jon go free then you'd have other issues.

Anyway, out of my many s8 complaints, I guess my biggest is that, even giving them leeway for only having a few episodes to do what they wanted to do and have Dany go mad, they were AWFUL about showing it.

Like all of the things she was "paranoid" about were actually happening lol. She wasn't eating because she knew Varys was trying to poison her. She was distrustful of Sansa because Sansa isn't trustworthy. She threw Tyrion in jail for betraying her because..Tyrion betrayed her lol.

So, I mean.....you need to actually show her being nuts about shit if you then want people to believe she is, in fact, nuts.
Tyrion didn't really betray her. He just quit his job when she torched King's Landing for no reason after he explicitly urged her not to before the battle, which seems like a justifiable reason to walk away.
 

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Tyrion didn't really betray her. He just quit his job when she torched King's Landing for no reason after he explicitly urged her not to before the battle, which seems like a justifiable reason to walk away.
no wait man he helped Jaime, her prisoner, escape. And jaime proceeded to just run into Cersei's arms.
 

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no wait man he helped Jaime, her prisoner, escape. And jaime proceeded to just run into Cersei's arms.
Yeah but did she imprison him for that? My memory of the final season is getting hazy now but I thought she only threw him in jail after he quit as Hand after the battle.
 

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Yeah but did she imprison him for that? My memory of the final season is getting hazy now but I thought she only threw him in jail after he quit as Hand after the battle.
Either way that's after she does the heel turn.

Prior, the "evidence" they use in s8 is 1) She gets jealous of the attention Jon is getting and leaves the table and Varys gives her a dirty look and 2) She makes a comment in e4 about being destined to rule.

See, that's the thread that I think will REALLY be pulled on by George. I think she'll be proclaimed Azor Ahai by Benerro and the entire Red God Temple in Volantis and she will have a fairly hefty meglomania complex going on that she won't listen to advice until she blows the city up. But, they decided to not have that happen, for w/e reason....I mean they could have just moved the damn Temple to Mereen and had then build that up all of s6. But they wanted to shock you in the end, instead of telling a compelling story.
 

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Fwiw BryndenBFish still thinks he'll have his final manuscript done by WorldCon. Which is end of july/start of August.

/fingers crossed.
I think I have a better chance of hitting the lotto than he does of finishing the story before he dies.

I haven't bought a lotto ticket in 15 years.
 

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Fwiw BryndenBFish still thinks he'll have his final manuscript done by WorldCon. Which is end of july/start of August.

/fingers crossed.
Sooner we get TWOW sooner we can start the 10 plus year wait for ADOS. Spoiler: that’s the one we’ll never get.
 

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Sooner we get TWOW sooner we can start the 10 plus year wait for ADOS. Spoiler: that’s the one we’ll never get.
Yeah I am reasonably sure that he finishes Winds, and probably this year.

Almost no chance he finishes Dream if it's not done within the next five years.
 

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Yea I honestly am not sure where Winds will leave off. Does the Wall fall? Is Stannis dead or alive? Who has control of King's Landing? Is it still standing?

Here's a question: We all expect Jaime to live through his Lady Stoneheart ordeal...but then what happens? Does she let him go willingly? Does Brienne decide to fight for him and kill off the brotherhood? If she lets him go, what's it to do?
 

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So all Sansa says about not telling Jon about the Knights of the Vale is "I should have told you. I'm sorry."

Lord man. And the thing is, we're supposed to, as an audience, come to the conclusion at the end of this that she's the new "smart" one. And this is how they write her. Only gets worse in s7.
 

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