The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[Jack Brickman]

She was fantastic as olenna, as someone who hasnt read the books. She worked well within the character. Her scene with Jamie was well done.

She nailed the character about as well as any actor on the show did with theirs based on how I pictured that character from the books.

 

[Chris]

I miss this show. Feels weird not having it. As bad as Season 8 was, it was one of the things I looked forward to most every year and it never disappointed me really until the very end.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I miss this show. Feels weird not having it. As bad as Season 8 was, it was one of the things I looked forward to most every year and it never disappointed me really until the very end.

It was a cultural phenomenon. Everybody was tuning in Sundays to watch that shit. We may never have another show like that again.

 

[Chris]

That’s a shitty, sinking feeling isn’t it? When something so generational is just over? Feels like when the Cavs broke up again after the 4 straight Finals appearances. It’s just... over. Never to be experienced the same way again.

Sorry the nostalgia is getting to me again.

I could say maybe we can recapture a spark when the books come out, but, yeah, you know.

 

[Stark]

Absolutely. The final couple were bad, but that last number was an all timer. I get visibly angry now when I see a clip of a classic earlier scene. All seems wasted. "You going to die over some chickens? Someone is".

The show began to take a downturn in season five and six, but was still fantastic television in my opinion (I personally think S5 was a bit boring). S7 is where the cracks really began to show and S8 was... well terrible.

The dialogue was just really bad, especially in the last two seasons. Intelligent characters like Tyrion, Baelish, Varys, Davos, etc. were just reduced to absolute shells of themselves because D&D didn't know how to write them.

We went from this:

To this:

D&D should be whipped through the streets.

 

[Rich]

The show began to take a downturn in season five and six, but was still fantastic television in my opinion (I personally think S5 was a bit boring). S7 is where the cracks really began to show and S8 was... well terrible.

The dialogue was just really bad, especially in the last two seasons. Intelligent characters like Tyrion, Baelish, Varys, Davos, etc. were just reduced to absolute shells of themselves because D&D didn't know how to write them.

We went from this:

To this:

D&D should be whipped through the streets.

This isn't talked about enough.

The writing as far as the plot was concerned was bad enough.

But my god the dialogue. Tyrion said zero funny things all season. Jon Snow had roughly 4 lines. I just.....

 

[Chris]

Just awful.

 

[Rich]

Just awful.

It's so weird too because some of the most memorable scenes weren't from the books.

Tyrion and Varys in early seasons, like when Varys captures the Sorcerer was great dialogue. One of my favorite scenes.

The scene where Catelyn tells Talisa how bad she feels about the way she treated Jon. Great stuff.

For w/e reason they totally forgot how to write by the end?

 

[Jack Brickman]

It's so weird too because some of the most memorable scenes weren't from the books.

Tyrion and Varys in early seasons, like when Varys captures the Sorcerer was great dialogue. One of my favorite scenes.

The scene where Catelyn tells Talisa how bad she feels about the way she treated Jon. Great stuff.

For w/e reason they totally forgot how to write by the end?

I think Martin was more heavily involved in the early seasons as a writer, and he no doubt had influence on a lot of those scenes.

 

[Rich]

I think Martin was more heavily involved in the early seasons as a writer, and he no doubt had influence on a lot of those scenes.

Man there would be an awesome question for George. What early scenes did he have input in that maybe didn't happen in the books? That would be telling, assuming he'd answer.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

I wanna go back and watch that chickens scene again. What season and ep was that?

 

[Chris]

I wanna go back and watch that chickens scene again. What season and ep was that?

wanna say season 4 ep 1

 

[Stark]

I wanna go back and watch that chickens scene again. What season and ep was that?

 

[Rich]

So a guy who has an early copy of Fire Cannot Kill A Dragon is posting stuff he finds interesting from his read through and George reveals, honestly, quite a lot. Especially for him. Some stuff confirmed. Such as, he did tell D&D three "holy shit moments." He specifically states two of them as being "Hold the Door," Stannis decision to burn Shireen, AND who will sit the IRon Throne.

So that was the 3rd moment. Bran on the Throne.

On this first one, he actually gets into how his version of Hold the Door may be different. That Bran will have been practicing his sword play while waring into Hodor and it will be more of a fight, with Hodor fighting them off. He also says it's Stannis decision to burn Shireen, which is pretty big news.

Honestly I'm gonna go buy this book now when it comes out to see everything. He reveals a metric shit ton.

He talks about how it was his idea to have Jeyne marry Ramsay, and in his first script he intially wrote a line that would have led to the idea that Jeyne was actually working FOR Littlefinger (they dropped it).

This obviously leads one to wonder if Jeyne, in the books, is in fact working for Littlefinger? He flat out says that HIS Littlefinger would NEVER give Sansa to Ramsay.

And then this neat little line from the guy reading through

"GRRM didn't refer to any show scenes after the Hodor scene."

Anyway, now I'm wondering about Jeyne Pool. From what I can tell George essentially confirms the wildly held belief that Jeyne is who Ramsay is marrying in the books. Is she doing so at Littlefinger's behest in the books, like GEorge wanted her to do in the show?

EDIT: Oh, and George also threw this bit in about Mel. That she didn't cause the deaths of the three kings by throwing worms into the fire. Instead, through the fire and her ability to see the future, she saw their deaths, and then acted. Not terribly important, but I never thought about it like that.

 

[Rich]

This is one of the more important things to me. From Weiss

DAN WEISS: We were talking about breaching the Wall and trying to figure out what pieces we already had on the board without introducing new deus ex machina pieces. What was in the world already that could conceivably knock down the Wall? Just getting the Night King past the Wall didn’t do it; just getting the White Walkers past didn’t do it. You needed to get an army of a hundred thousand dead men past the Wall, which means a giant hole. We were racking our brains as to what could do that. Then we realized there would be something massive in the show—they weren’t massive at the time we thought of this—and that was the dragons. But getting a dragon north of the Wall was tricky.

One would think, if George told them that this was how he was going to get them past the wall, they'd have said as much at this point?