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I believe the Tyrells power basically comes from numbers/food. They have the largest population and the largest army in Westeros.

The Lannister are the ones with $$.
Also true.

But that castle, most proper castles, can be held for weeks, months with even a small garrison.

Those Lannister forces didn't even have siege engines, ladders or a baggage train! Marching up to Highgarden in formation like a bunch of weirdos.

They wouldn't have been able to dent those walls, much less storm it.

They would have starved themselves within a week!
 
Also true.

But that castle, most proper castles, can be held for weeks, months with even a small garrison.

Those Lannister forces didn't even have siege engines, ladders or a baggage train! Marching up to Highgarden in formation like a bunch of weirdos.

They wouldn't have been able to dent those walls, much less storm it.

They would have starved themselves within a week!

The differences in the way the sieges of Riverrun and Highgarden were handled was...interesting.

That's what gets me. If you're going to be crappy about military stuff and not understand it, I suppose that's excusable. But the way the books and show handle the siege of Riverrun showed that there was at least a basic understanding of how difficult it is to take a castle. So they have the knowledge. They just completely ignored a reality of which they were fully aware simply because it was more convenient from a writing standpoint. That's inexcusable
 
The differences in the way the sieges of Riverrun and Highgarden were handled was...interesting.

That's what gets me. If you're going to be crappy about military stuff and not understand it, I suppose that's excusable. But the way the books and show handle the siege of Riverrun showed that there was at least a basic understanding of how difficult it is to take a castle. So they have the knowledge. They just completely ignored a reality of which they were fully aware simply because it was more convenient from a writing standpoint. That's an inexcusable
Like how hard is it to pay for some siege engines in the CGI wide shot?

Or a single line about "Get the battering ram in position, they don't have enough troops to hold the gate if we attack with prejudice!"
 
The differences in the way the sieges of Riverrun and Highgarden were handled was...interesting.

That's what gets me. If you're going to be crappy about military stuff and not understand it, I suppose that's excusable. But the way the books and show handle the siege of Riverrun showed that there was at least a basic understanding of how difficult it is to take a castle. So they have the knowledge. They just completely ignored a reality of which they were fully aware simply because it was more convenient from a writing standpoint. That's inexcusable

It’s all because D&D got lazy, decided they wanted to move on, and instead of handing off the show to someone who still cared they took it down with them.
 
I believe the Tyrells power basically comes from numbers/food. They have the largest population and the largest army in Westeros.

The Lannisters are the ones with $$.

Yeah, that sounds familiar, although the Lannister gold mines had run empty or something if I recall. I know the Tyrells were up there in wealth, perhaps it was resources more so than money like you said.
 
Yeah, that sounds familiar, although the Lannister gold mines had run empty or something if I recall. I know the Tyrells were up there in wealth, perhaps it was resources more so than money like you said.

A lot of the bullshit logic on the show was hand-waved by comments like "the mines have run dry" or "we've never been great fighters."
 
Blackwater and the battle at the Wall in Watchers both made sense. Hardhome did as well.

That’s about it that I can remember for battles that were shown on screen.
 
Blackwater and the battle at the Wall in Watchers both made sense. Hardhome did as well.

That’s about it that I can remember for battles that were shown on screen.

Blackwater only makes sense if you assume that Stannis' navy would be dumb enough to steer directly toward the ship loaded with wildfire that is obviously a trap.

That battle made way more sense in the books where Tyrion used the chain to trap Stannis' navy and Davos, who none of Stannis' bannermen respected, was the only one smart enough to realize it but was ignored because they viewed him as an upjumped peasant.

On the show, there's just no way anyone could see that lone ship with literally no one on it and think, "Hey, let's steer out entire fleet right for it!"
 
It’s all because D&D got lazy, decided they wanted to move on, and instead of handing off the show to someone who still cared they took it down with them.

They essentially admitted this at the Comic-Con after GOT's finale in a very non-chalant, smirky way. That is why Disney fired them from their Star Wars project but their PR team put out that they chose Netflix over SW.

They just fucking gave up under the pressure instead of agreeing to bring on more help to carry the load.
 

Gotta say, that looks...pretty good?

And visually, it's simply on another level compared to any other fantasy show on TV. It makes Wheel of Time look like a cosplay special.
 
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Thought it looked kinda mid tbh.

Maybe because I’m just not invested yet. Visually it looks great. Maybe that’s what you meant.

It looks like exactly why I loved the first five or so seasons of Game of Thrones. Lots of politics and back-stabbing. I love the Targaryen history too. The Dance of Dragons just seems like the perfect backdrop for a show set in the Thrones world and it very much looks like they're going to do a good job adapting it.
 
It looks like exactly why I loved the first five or so seasons of Game of Thrones. Lots of politics and back-stabbing. I love the Targaryen history too. The Dance of Dragons just seems like the perfect backdrop for a show set in the Thrones world and it very much looks like they're going to do a good job adapting it.
I agree, I’m still gonna watch and still think it has huge potential.

Like I said before, took me years but I finally worked up a little bit of interest to revisit this world.
 
It's just not even close the parts of the Targaryen reign that I care about.

I was so hoping they'd do a time period that involved Bloodraven.
 
It's just not even close the parts of the Targaryen reign that I care about.

I was so hoping they'd do a time period that involved Bloodraven.

Supposedly, if this story is successful they may turn House of the Dragon into an anthology and potentially tell more of the Targaryen story, so you may get your wish in a few years. I've read they've got three to four seasons planned for this story.
 

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