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Difference between force play and having to tag the runner...
So a first baseman can have his foot in middle of bag?
I know they weren’t going to call it but notice Naylor limp at last at bat .. I am sure his trying to avoid Haase didn’t help and what they wanted to avoid the collision. I would say force is more reason to make sure catcher is clearly in front of bag ... in line w throw. You only need back of foot on the plate and not like Naylor is speedster to not have time to look at footing
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If you look back at other situations of catchers having contact with the plate on a force play, you will find the same thing.
Its the difference of the plate being nearly flush with the ground and the other 3 bases being raised up so a player can be in contact with the base and still have their foot out of the way of the approaching runner.
If you look back at other situations of catchers having contact with the plate on a force play, you will find the same thing.
Its the difference of the plate being nearly flush with the ground and the other 3 bases being raised up so a player can be in contact with the base and still have their foot out of the way of the approaching runner.
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Is the rule written differently for a force out? because I would say it's very clear the catcher is trying to block the plate on the force out.
Edit to add the runner has absolutely no place to put his foot to get home. The runner should have forced his way through the catcher to high light the issue
Edit to add the runner has absolutely no place to put his foot to get home. The runner should have forced his way through the catcher to high light the issue
Technically, in 2014, mlb exempted force outs from blocking home plate rule. But, MT there is a difference in having part of foot on plate to touch it and full foot towards the back to block it. Based on how dirt vs plate feels even w cleats, catcher can figure it out. Reason I said these rules need clarifying — as the other rule is runner cannot change his path to plate to initiate contact/interference. As they were commenting in 8th, runner did banana route around 3rd so technically Hedges could block the fair side of baseline to be in position to apply his tage to the runner path towards the backside/foul territory where his rounding was taking him ... not straight down the line.
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MLB tweaks Rule 7.13 to eliminate obstruction calls on force outs
After a silly call last week, MLB makes an adjustment in the obstruction rule.
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I think there is a difference here worth pointing out.
If an infielder wanted to plant their foot right in the middle of the bag... They're going to be a tackling dummy for the player who decides to run them over... Unlike the catcher, they aren't covered in gear... It's clearly unadvisable for several reasons.
Only a matter of time before we see shin guards on a 1st baseman... Or catchers wearing thigh pads. <-- sort of kidding here.
If an infielder wanted to plant their foot right in the middle of the bag... They're going to be a tackling dummy for the player who decides to run them over... Unlike the catcher, they aren't covered in gear... It's clearly unadvisable for several reasons.
Only a matter of time before we see shin guards on a 1st baseman... Or catchers wearing thigh pads. <-- sort of kidding here.
The rule states that the runner must be given a clear path TO the plate.
Naylor certainly had a clear path TO the plate. Not that he would...or should...but he could have reached the plate by sliding. There was nothing there to impede a slide.
In the replay officials opinion, Hedges had the plate blocked before having the ball, leaving no path to the plate. Thats a totally subjective call, which is open to debate. The runner could have slid from the backside....which is actually what he did.
Its a bad rule, but its a rule with an understandable reason that both MLB and the PA agreed to.
How many instances, like Rose-Fosse and Leron Lee-Carlton Fisk, are worth a bad rule, meant to ensure that we don't see another?
I saw one on TV and one in person. Neither was pretty.
There have been other rule changes, also meant to protect defensive players. A baserunner can no longer go into second base wide with spikes up to break up a double play. Ty Cobb and Frank Robinson probably still bemoan that one.
(I was very good at that, too. Led to more than one...uh...physical misunderstanding...lol.)
Pitchers can no longer purposely throw at batters, esp above the waste. Pedro and Bob Gibson hate that one.
There are some who think those are bad rules.
But they are the rules.
Naylor certainly had a clear path TO the plate. Not that he would...or should...but he could have reached the plate by sliding. There was nothing there to impede a slide.
In the replay officials opinion, Hedges had the plate blocked before having the ball, leaving no path to the plate. Thats a totally subjective call, which is open to debate. The runner could have slid from the backside....which is actually what he did.
Its a bad rule, but its a rule with an understandable reason that both MLB and the PA agreed to.
How many instances, like Rose-Fosse and Leron Lee-Carlton Fisk, are worth a bad rule, meant to ensure that we don't see another?
I saw one on TV and one in person. Neither was pretty.
There have been other rule changes, also meant to protect defensive players. A baserunner can no longer go into second base wide with spikes up to break up a double play. Ty Cobb and Frank Robinson probably still bemoan that one.
(I was very good at that, too. Led to more than one...uh...physical misunderstanding...lol.)
Pitchers can no longer purposely throw at batters, esp above the waste. Pedro and Bob Gibson hate that one.
There are some who think those are bad rules.
But they are the rules.