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Tony Stewart runs over and kills other driver who was trying to confront him

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Re: Tony Stewart may be charged with murder...

I'm telling you, I read on deadspin that there was a pro cam in his car, what happens if it shows signifcant evidence? Like his hands on the wheel steering right into the kid. I hope its true about the cam... If the other car swerved away, then why couldn't Tony? He wanted to be a dick, which he is a giant one by the way. But still, that kid is at fault for heading on foot toward oncoming cars on that track.

But I still believe Tony could of avoided him.

I keep watching it, damn, just the way Tony's engine revved and the swerving right to hit him is sickening.
 
Re: Tony Stewart may be charged with murder...

People really think he would run over someone on purpose like that? He's not a psychopath.

Maybe not on purpose, probably on accident. Although maybe he had a case of road rage and did. Who knows? There are crazy people everywhere, including prominent sports figures.
 
Tony wasn't the only one taking a high line, look at the car at 30 seconds, it's higher than Stewart's car was and almost hits Ward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QJdBd0437U

It's also almost impossible to hear any "revving" from his car from that far away when there's so much other noise going on, so I don't know what some people are talking about.

BTW you can run the video at 1/4th speed if you click the gear in the bottom right.
 
Oh, and people saying "it sounds like he gunned it" probably don't realize the camera is across the racetrack and would be picking up sound from cars nearest to it, not across the track...
 
I posted this on another forum. This type of racing has been in my family for decades and I've spent hundreds of nights at these types of races. It can difficult to process the video if you don't know much about the form of racing.

There is a lot of bad info in this thread. I have been around sprint cars all my life and it pains me to see people spouting off who have no clue about what they are talking about.

These cars are engineered and set up to turn left. If you hold the wheel straight, you will turn left. If you slam on the brakes, the rear end of the car will slide out and the car will steer left. They have no clutches and idle at a pretty decent clip. If Tony were to slam the brakes to miss Ward, the car would have kicked out and slid the right rear tire towards him. It also would have more than likely stalled the car right in front of numerous other cars that would have had to take evasive action. In short, these cars are very difficult to control at slow speed, so him hitting the gas and transferring weight to the rear end would actually give him the best opportunity to precisely maneuver the car.

I'm not saying he didn't hit the gas to try and send a message to Ward, but I am saying that him hitting the throttle near him DOES NOT necessarily mean he had bad intentions. Drivers stab the throttle under caution all the time to clean out the motors and keep heat in the tires.

Visibility at these tracks can also be sketchy. Lighting is usually old and dust can linger in the air making things more difficult. Drivers also have several layers of tear offs on their helmet that they pull off when they get covered in mud. Seeing through a bunch of them no doubt limits sight. Not to mention the head and neck restraints, containment seats, and belts that are all designed to immobilize the neck. The wing panel on the right side also limits the line of sight out that side of the car.

It is entirely possible that Stewart did not see the kid until it was too late. In this form of racing, you do not make pit stops. You adjust your car under yellow flag conditions. You also check gauges, pull on your seat belts, etc. Guys are absolutely not driving around the track expecting people to be running around the racing surface. If there was a serious incident that necessitated individuals to be moving around the track, a red flag is thrown and all race cars are stopped.

Another point being ignored is the fact that these cars have no mirrors. Tony Stewart would not have known the guy he was racing with was the one who wrecked until he circled back around the track. A yellow flag could just have easily been for another incident, a car that blew a motor and stopped on the track, debris on the racing surface or many other things. There are no mirrors or spotters talking to the drivers like in Nascar. These drivers can only see what is in front of them.

At the end of the day, Tony is the only one who knows what happened. I don't believe for a second that this was intentional. The racing incident that preceded the tragedy did not hurt his car or cause him to lose positions, so what would he be angry about? MAYBE he was attempting to intimidate Ward, but we are talking about a guy he probably does not know at all and may never race with again. What does that gain him?

It seems to me that this was a tragic accident that could have happened at any track to a thousand different drivers. You do not get out of your car and walk toward oncoming racecars. Nothing good comes out of that. Ever. Ward definitely made a bad decision that cost him his life. Stewart will be haunted by this the rest of his life, but only he knows what was going through his mind last night.
 
Does anyone think Graves is emotionally involved and it's affecting his ability to be objective? The only reason I ask is because he seems very sure that Stewart swung out on purpose to "send a message" to Ward Jr. Did Graves have any biases towards Stewart beforehand?

When I first saw this I thought it was manslaughter/neg homocide, but I'm just not sure now. The DA is seeking expert testimony so Stewart isn't even close to being out of the woods.

We all know Ward did something absolutely foolish that made it possible for him to hurt. No one is denying that I believe. So I guess I'll just have to wait and see what the experts say and what other footage is out there.

Just tragic man.
 
Anybody who thinks that Stewart intentionally hit and killed that kid is an idiot. Plain and simple.

Not to speak ill of the dead, but that kid who go out of the car is an idiot for jumping out onto a track where racecars are going by at 90+ mph. You've got zero peripherals in those race helmets. If you notice, the car right in front of Stewart almost hit him as well, and since Stewart was right on his ass, he probably didn't even see him until it was too late, if he even saw him at all. He got clipped by the back right tire as he was finishing a turn drift.

And that engine revving you are hearing... it was from the cars that were closer to the camera, but were off camera because it was already zoomed in on Stewart. It's really not that hard people.

The amount of stupidity I'm seeing all over the internet and Twitter over this is absolutely insane. If anybody is at fault, it's that kid who thought it'd be a great idea to run on a race track to try to taunt a guy.
 
If anything, the human race got smarter due to natural selection.
 
Anybody who thinks that Stewart intentionally hit and killed that kid is an idiot. Plain and simple.

Not to speak ill of the dead, but that kid who go out of the car is an idiot for jumping out onto a track where racecars are going by at 90+ mph. You've got zero peripherals in those race helmets. If you notice, the car right in front of Stewart almost hit him as well, and since Stewart was right on his ass, he probably didn't even see him until it was too late, if he even saw him at all. He got clipped by the back right tire as he was finishing a turn drift.

And that engine revving you are hearing... it was from the cars that were closer to the camera, but were off camera because it was already zoomed in on Stewart. It's really not that hard people.

The amount of stupidity I'm seeing all over the internet and Twitter over this is absolutely insane. If anybody is at fault, it's that kid who thought it'd be a great idea to run on a race track to try to taunt a guy.
nobody is saying Stewart intentionally hit anybody and the cars weren't going 90+mph considering the race was under caution.
 
There was an incident in the news some time ago that involved two people acting in the heat of the moment and escalating a stiuation to the point that one was killed. It led to a firestorm of controversy as everyone tried to assign blame to one side or the other, when the truth was that both were responsible for how the siutation bore out. Good luck to the sheriff's department in sorting this out, because right now I really can't give much of an opinion other than it wouldn't surprise me if someone like Stewart was trying to spook the dumb ass who ran out of his car at him on the track during a caution and ended up clipping him. Two people acting foolish and a death ensued. Terrible to see. Curious to see how blame ends up being assigned.
 
If anything, the human race got smarter due to natural selection.


You are disgusting for saying this. The kid got a hot-head (you know, cause he was fucking 20) and made a mistake that he will never have the opportunity to learn from.

You're telling me you've never made a dumb decision and said to yourself "Wow, that was close."? I know it's not commonly RCF practice to call someone out directly like this, but that comment is the filthiest thing I've seen in quite some time. It makes me sad/angry/scared that there are people out there who lack empathy to this degree.

Get your shit together dude because right now, YOU are everything that is wrong with the human race.
 
You are disgusting for saying this. The kid got a hot-head (you know, cause he was fucking 20) and made a mistake that he will never have the opportunity to learn from.

You're telling me you've never made a dumb decision and said to yourself "Wow, that was close."? I know it's not commonly RCF practice to call someone out directly like this, but that comment is the filthiest thing I've seen in quite some time. It makes me sad/angry/scared that there are people out there who lack empathy to this degree.

Get your shit together dude because right now, YOU are everything that is wrong with the human race.
Give me a fucking break.
 
Give me a fucking break.

Sorry man but I had one friend in high school who died in a car accident because he decided to jump a hill and my ex-girlfriend's brother lost both of his legs because he was drunk walking on train tracks and got himself caught on a train when it started moving. Both really dumb, stupid decisions, except one had the opportunity to learn from it and is a much better, more mature person now. The other is in a grave.

I'm sure he thought that comment was innocent, but the fact that "we're better off, he was an idiot" popped into his head just makes me upset. It's really inappropriate...and if he's trying to inject humor into this situation, there is absolutely nothing to laugh about. Young people dying is a tragedy, no matter the circumstance.
 
Fair points Damien.

And I say that as someone who is not at all offended by the IKWT comment.

I can think of a few instances where I could have died due to my own stupid decisions that I wouldn't even consider making now. Can't argue with you there.
 
You are disgusting for saying this. The kid got a hot-head (you know, cause he was fucking 20) and made a mistake that he will never have the opportunity to learn from.

You're telling me you've never made a dumb decision and said to yourself "Wow, that was close."? I know it's not commonly RCF practice to call someone out directly like this, but that comment is the filthiest thing I've seen in quite some time. It makes me sad/angry/scared that there are people out there who lack empathy to this degree.

Get your shit together dude because right now, YOU are everything that is wrong with the human race.

Sorry man but I had one friend in high school who died in a car accident because he decided to jump a hill and my ex-girlfriend's brother lost both of his legs because he was drunk walking on train tracks and got himself caught on a train when it started moving. Both really dumb, stupid decisions, except one had the opportunity to learn from it and is a much better, more mature person now. The other is in a grave.

I'm sure he thought that comment was innocent, but the fact that "we're better off, he was an idiot" popped into his head just makes me upset. It's really inappropriate...and if he's trying to inject humor into this situation, there is absolutely nothing to laugh about. Young people dying is a tragedy, no matter the circumstance.


Chill. It's a comment online. We didn't even know this dude, who cares. For some reason you're channeling this into something that happened in your own personal life, which was unfortunate, but also not fair to bring into the discussion. Can't please everyone with lighthearted humor. How do any of us say anything in life if anything we say can be taken as offensive nowadays? Who know what people are going through.
 

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