The trade is terrible value for the Cavs but I think it is pretty obvious the thought was Garland would love to play near where he grew up lol
I would NOT expect either Sexland to be moved after that presser unless Altman was full of it
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I would NOT expect either Sexland to be moved after that presser unless Altman was full of it
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I thought we had specific threads for you to make these posts?
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Justin Holiday is too old and Aaron would add to the problem of playable guys that aren't talented enough to make a impact on the team, which is a huge part of our roster.
I wouldn't mind picking someone like Josh Giddey but I think that the front office has to be real sure of the player they are drafting if they are giving up Garland to do so. Garland has raised his floor so whoever trades for him is taking less of a gamble than a draft pick. The upside of the draft pick needs to be as high if not higher than Garlands ceiling to make up for the increased risk.
I would say Garland is worth a top 8 draft picks in this draft.
If it was a trade with Indy. Maybe 12th pick and Myles Turner for Garland and Cedi if the player we really want is there at 12 and we have somewhere to sign and trade Allen to for more assets.
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I wonder if Golden state will be interested in Sexton and trading their lottery pick to get him?
Why The Cavs Should Trade Collin Sexton
The Cleveland Cavaliers are about to make a tough decision for the franchise's future. Collin Sexton has been an up and coming player for the Cavs.
cavsnation.com
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I can't imagine they would have any interest in that.I wonder if Golden state will be interested in Sexton and trading their lottery pick to get him?
Why The Cavs Should Trade Collin Sexton
The Cleveland Cavaliers are about to make a tough decision for the franchise's future. Collin Sexton has been an up and coming player for the Cavs.cavsnation.com
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I wonder if Golden state will be interested in Sexton and trading their lottery pick to get him?
Why The Cavs Should Trade Collin Sexton
The Cleveland Cavaliers are about to make a tough decision for the franchise's future. Collin Sexton has been an up and coming player for the Cavs.cavsnation.com
I think looking at trades where the player is the "missing piece" is the best way to go when figuring out situations where they might work. I'm a fan of Sexton but a undersized SG rarely is a missing piece and to think we can get a high value pick for him just doesn't seem plausible.
I think there is too much overthinking with the cap and wanting to trade him. We hit on a good player with the #8 pick. We should be trying to figure out ways to make the roster work instead of diminishing the overall talent of this team. We lack top end talent and it's basically the reason why this team isn't good. Adding more #7-10 rotation guys isn't going to propel this team forward.
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Personally, I think Sexton is more than just a sixth man. To think that he's just a sixth man is a little ridiculous. He was our starting 2-guard for most of the season & he averaged 24 PPG & 4 APG. Those are all star calliber numbers, & the reason he was in all star consideration.
I'm glad I don't have to make this decision. It's really tough deciding who to keep. Garland is a more natural playmaker than Sexton is, but Garland will never be the scorer Sexton is or have the athleticism to match.
I'd be fine if we give the Sexland another year, unless Green falls to our lap in the draft. I hope our front office finds a good trade for one of them if that happens.
I'm glad I don't have to make this decision. It's really tough deciding who to keep. Garland is a more natural playmaker than Sexton is, but Garland will never be the scorer Sexton is or have the athleticism to match.
I'd be fine if we give the Sexland another year, unless Green falls to our lap in the draft. I hope our front office finds a good trade for one of them if that happens.
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My initial thought was, man this is terrible. Thinking about it, there might be something these two teams can work out. I'd imagine the Cavs would get some first rounders in that deal as well. Porzingis is awful & injury prone.
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I proposed almost this exact trade a few months ago and got reamed for it. I hope the responses are better for you.
KP when he plays, is better than Love, just because he never plays, but there is no chance Josh Green, is good enough compensation as is, to part with Sexton, just to get rid of Kevin fucking Love in this deal or try to get better defensively in the back court. I don't see Dallas having any picks they can deal for a long time, to balance it either. I think, even if they have struggles coming to terms on a deal with Sexton, and do in fact decide to part ways, or he decides to bet on himself. It still doesn't make the deal reasonable for me.
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The other school of thought would be.........finding an actual good player at #8 is somewhat of a minor miracle. Just looking at the usual mid lottery grave yard. If the player you found there is not in your long term plans, spinning them in to an equally valuable extended team controlled asset would be a huge win.
If a team were willing to trade us a lottery pick for Collin right now, I would do it. This is an exceptionally strong draft on the wing and it is unlikely we will have the ability to completely remake our roster around Darius 12 months from now, in one off-season.
I think the Cavs should really take to heart Portland's struggles and consider how we build around 1 of those guys and stop trying to plow forward with two guards as the centerpiece of our offense and soon, a large drain on our salary cap.
We do lack top end talent and an avenue to acquiring it is more draft capital. This is largely based on what our internal perception of Collin is though. If the FO views him as a multi-time All-Star, then you probably wait and see after this draft. If they think he's not a great fit with Darius, who's creation skills make him a more likely offensive engine, then they should move him a year too early than a year too late.
This seems like way too much for Porzingis. At this point, he's a distressed asset as well IMO. He's flamed out at multiple destinations and seems like a bad attitude type. Love is older, certainly.......but there's no way the value gap between he and Porzingis is Sexton. Love + Role Player or Love + a heavily protected #1 seems like enough to me. Dallas could then trade the protected pick for some other role player type to fill out their rotation.
Hypothetically, if Collin and not Darius were to get traded, what does everyone think we could get back? I guess I'm more curious to find out what other people think his value is, because I don't have him having much value around the league. He's good at what he does, but really only does one thing, like a garlic press or an oyster knife. Like, I would trade him to Detroit(who seem like a good fit for him; tall point guard, not a ton of scoring outside of Grant) straight up for Saddiq Bey if the salaries worked, but I feel like there are a lot of people who would think we'd be getting ripped off in that trade.