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Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Should President Trump Be Impeached?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 66.0%
  • No

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • Undecided and awaiting evidence before making a decision

    Votes: 6 12.8%
  • Hillary Did it

    Votes: 7 14.9%

  • Total voters
    47

pr26

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Is there something specific you'd like me to say?

Listen, if you want to believe that orange man bad, he hates women, he's treasonous, he hates gays and Mexicans - that's fine. You're free to do so. If you want to ignore the fact that Hillary and Bill Clinton are highly treasonous, sadistic mass murderers that will be exposed, that's fine. You're free to do so.
Nah, I don’t want you to say any of that. Not even close to anything I posted. You were saying Trump didn’t want to be President, and then something changed. I don’t know why that changed, do you? and how does it apply to anything we were talking about?
 

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Nah, I don’t want you to say any of that. Not even close to anything I posted. You were saying Trump didn’t want to be President, and then something changed. I don’t know why that changed, do you? and how does it apply to anything we were talking about?
I have no idea why it changed - but he certainly said publicly many years ago he didn't want to be President.
 

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I have no idea why it changed - but he certainly said publicly many years ago he didn't want to be President.
I have no idea what we’re talking about anymore so I’ll just leave it at that. Cheers!
 

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Taft didn't want to be president either, and we all remember how he eventually exposed Grover Cleveland as a treasonous mass murderer, not to mention his pizza parlor pedophile ring.

[Please don't take this joke as a defense of the Clintons, I wish they'd all go away and stop being involved in politics.]
 

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Taft didn't want to be president either, and we all remember how he eventually exposed Grover Cleveland as a treasonous mass murderer, not to mention his pizza parlor pedophile ring.

[Please don't take this joke as a defense of the Clintons, I wish they'd all go away and stop being involved in politics.]
I wasn't born in the late 1800's, so I am not aware of this. They had pizza parlors way back then?? Damn.
 

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When they vote on the actual articles of impeachment, that will go on record. Do we need a less important vote on the record as well?
What harm is having the vote to open the inquiry is my point. Yes it's 100% symbolic but it eliminates the absurd argument the Republicans are trying to make that the inquiry is unlawful.
 

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I have no idea why it changed - but he certainly said publicly many years ago he didn't want to be President.
I don't think anything changed. I just don't think he thought he would actually win. I remember his face when he found out he'd won and it didn't seem like a man who'd just accomplished something he'd been wanting to do. It looked like a man thinking, "Oh shit, what have I gotten myself into?"

I think he ran for the PR and thought he'd lose but benefit himself in the long run financially. Instead, he won and now he's using his position to benefit himself financially at the expense of the taxpayers, something many of the supposed conservatives here are oddly okay with. I can't imagine the shit fit some of the guys here would have thrown if Obama had abused his position by staying at his own hotels and raking in a fortune in ridiculous expenses.
 

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What harm is having the vote to open the inquiry is my point. Yes it's 100% symbolic but it eliminates the absurd argument the Republicans are trying to make that the inquiry is unlawful.
apparently the reason the democrats dont want to hold a vote, is that something tied to the vote(im not sure what) would give the republicans subpoena powers in the house which would slow things down. This in the past hasnt been an issue, but in their infinite wisdom the GOP removed the right of the minority party in the house to issue subpoenas sometime over the last 8 years (or however long they have held the house). Apparently they did not expect the democrats to ever regain a house majority???

So basically in order to keep the GOP from messing things up the democrats arent holding a vote. Because ultimately its not required
 

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I don't think anything changed. I just don't think he thought he would actually win. I remember his face when he found out he'd won and it didn't seem like a man who'd just accomplished something he'd been wanting to do. It looked like a man thinking, "Oh shit, what have I gotten myself into?"

I think he ran for the PR and thought he'd lose but benefit himself in the long run financially. Instead, he won and now he's using his position to benefit himself financially at the expense of the taxpayers, something many of the supposed conservatives here are oddly okay with. I can't imagine the shit fit some of the guys here would have thrown if Obama had abused his position by staying at his own hotels and raking in a fortune in ridiculous expenses.
Trump doesn't strike me as someone who would accept defeat before he even started.

The man doesn't need to benefit financially anymore, so I'm not buying that (even though I understand greed very well).
 

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I don't think anything changed. I just don't think he thought he would actually win. I remember his face when he found out he'd won and it didn't seem like a man who'd just accomplished something he'd been wanting to do. It looked like a man thinking, "Oh shit, what have I gotten myself into?"

I think he ran for the PR and thought he'd lose but benefit himself in the long run financially. Instead, he won and now he's using his position to benefit himself financially at the expense of the taxpayers, something many of the supposed conservatives here are oddly okay with. I can't imagine the shit fit some of the guys here would have thrown if Obama had abused his position by staying at his own hotels and raking in a fortune in ridiculous expenses.
Not that Howard Stern is the king of all scoops, but he said that he had it on good authority that he was using the presidential run to launch a personal venture...maybe a TV network or something. He had done similar things for book releases and other such things. I don't doubt that his intention was publicity and not the presidency. It shows.
 

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Trump doesn't strike me as someone who would accept defeat before he even started.

The man doesn't need to benefit financially anymore, so I'm not buying that (even though I understand greed very well).
I don't think it's that he accepted defeat before he started. I think he ran with the expectation of losing but using the whole thing, as Hurl said, to launch a major business venture. I just can't get over how shell shocked he looked when he won. There were people questioning if he'd immediately resign after winning, although at that point I think his pride took over and he decided to do it even though he clearly has no idea how government works and is horribly unqualified.

As for benefiting financially...how many billionaires out there (I know Trump isn't a billionaire, just using the term as an example) seemingly just exist to keep hoarding wealth? These people don't need more money, but as you said, greed drives them. They want more and more and more and what they have is never enough. I'd certainly say Trump strikes me as that type of person.
 

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I don't think it's that he accepted defeat before he started. I think he ran with the expectation of losing but using the whole thing, as Hurl said, to launch a major business venture. I just can't get over how shell shocked he looked when he won. There were people questioning if he'd immediately resign after winning, although at that point I think his pride took over and he decided to do it even though he clearly has no idea how government works and is horribly unqualified.

As for benefiting financially...how many billionaires out there (I know Trump isn't a billionaire, just using the term as an example) seemingly just exist to keep hoarding wealth? These people don't need more money, but as you said, greed drives them. They want more and more and more and what they have is never enough. I'd certainly say Trump strikes me as that type of person.
First, I'd like to congratulate you on your correct use of the word resign. I am a well known nazi grammar guy. Thank you lol.

I would agree that he is horribly unqualified, because he is not a career politician. He is an agitator; a game changer; a tornado in the eye of a hurricane.
 

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Trump doesn't strike me as someone who would accept defeat before he even started.

The man doesn't need to benefit financially anymore, so I'm not buying that (even though I understand greed very well).
Not really sure about this he had so many side hustles such as Trump U plus his less then billionaire status plus the tax shenanigans with his charity and his money losing golf losses that the Trump organization could be a debt laden Ponzi like structure where new income is necessary to keep the whole mess afloat

The way he approaches business and the presidency (Trump Tower Moscow deal stinks worse the a skunk as just one example out of many) fits this well. You simply don't see guys with real real estate empires such as Sam Zell bother with made for TV scams like Trump U
 

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Trump's response to whether he'd cooperate after a vote... "only if it's fair." What the fuck does that mean? Whatever he wants. No matter what measures the Dems take it will not change his "ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL IMPEACHMENT" stance.

Just delaying and blocking to protect himself.
 

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