Week 3: Browns at Colts. #winning

[Randolphkeys]

Had no trouble embarrassing the Colts

...at home with Tolzien at QB for the Colts rather than Brissett in the dome in Indy. Look, good for the Rams for straightening out their offense with better coaching, but they always had talent. Browns are a year away and coaching wasn't the problem... talent was the problem.

 

[Huber.]

I’m all for criticizing Hue because some of these issues are on him...but who the fuck could we get to replace him that we know would be better?

I’m not on board with firing just for firing sake.

We said the same thing about Pettine. More of this garbage and we will be alright with moving on.

 

[Chardon]

Relocate the team. It will hurt for a few years, but we will get over it.

 

[Randolphkeys]

We said the same thing about Pettine. More of this garbage and we will be alright with moving on.

That's not how cycles work.

 

[Triple-S]

...at home with Tolzien at QB for the Colts rather than Brissett in the dome in Indy. Look, good for the Rams for straightening out their offense with better coaching, but they always had talent. Browns are a year away and coaching wasn't the problem... talent was the problem.

Yeah this is what happens when you draft the likes of Trent Richardson, Brandon Weeden, Barkevious Mingo, Justin Gilbert, Johnny Manziel, Danny Shelton, and Cameron Irving all in the row.

That's fucking humiliating to type out. You missed on six first round picks in a row.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Yeah this is what happens when you draft the likes of Trent Richardson, Brandon Weeden, Barkevious Mingo, Justin Gilbert, Johnny Manziel, Danny Shelton, and Cameron Irving all in the row.

That's fucking humiliating to type out. You missed on six first round picks in a row.

Agreed, even if I see Shelton as a good pick after seeing most of that draft class struggle. The Browns finally cleaned house of the scouting department after that draft, so while we agree the lack of top end talent in their prime is the illness, it's too soon to say they don't have the cure.

 

[Triple-S]

Agreed, even if I see Shelton as a good pick after seeing most of that draft class struggle. The Browns finally cleaned house of the scouting department after that draft, so while we agree the lack of top end talent in their prime is the illness, it's too soon to say they don't have the cure.

Like I even can understand the Coleman pick and it did wind up getting us some extra stuff as a result.

I kinda view him as a 2nd option, not a first. But still...that's -something-. That's not a wasted pick.

But if you are a bad team...or even a team that has had an off year? That's where you find playmakers or a guy who can make an impact on defense. Towards the end of the first and towards the 2nd? Obviously you find starters, but the Browns have seemingly fucked up on both accounts.

 

[Cratylus]

Yeah this is what happens when you draft the likes of Trent Richardson, Brandon Weeden, Barkevious Mingo, Justin Gilbert, Johnny Manziel, Danny Shelton, and Cameron Irving all in the row.

That's fucking humiliating to type out. You missed on six first round picks in a row.

It's actually worse than that. Take a look at the list of everyone they've chosen in the first round since '99. It's loaded with garbage:

Tim Couch
Courtney Brown
Gerard Warren
William Green
Jeff Faine
Kellen Winslow II
Braylon Edwards
Kamerion Wimbley
Joe Thomas
Brady Quinn
Alex Mack
Joe Haden
Phil Taylor
Trent Richardson
Brandon Weeden
Barkevious Mingo
Justin Gilbert
Johnny Manziel
Danny Shelton
Cameron Erving
Corey Coleman

Ugh.

 

[Triple-S]

It's actually worse than that. Take a look at the list of everyone they've chosen in the first round since 'oo. It's loaded with garbage:

Tim Couch
Courtney Brown
Gerard Warren
William Green
Jeff Faine
Kellen Winslow II
Braylon Edwards
Kamerion Wimbley
Joe Thomas
Brady Quinn
Alex Mack
Joe Haden
Phil Taylor
Trent Richardson
Brandon Weeden
Barkevious Mingo
Justin Gilbert
Johnny Manziel
Danny Shelton
Cameron Erving

Ugh.

I can't blame Timmy. I can blame the situation around Timmy, but Timmy himself was not a bad option in theory. In fact he had some great moments (Hail Mary's and the like).

Green is a situation in which he had a decent rookie season and then just fell off a cliff.

Faine had a solid career. actually.

KII and Btaylon had 07 as their fantastic moments in their career. I really believed Braylon was going to be OUR Larry Fitzgerald or Megatron...and man...imagine if he was. Both had their meltdowns though.

I don't need to go on about Joe Thomas. In fact I feel ashamed he's been stuck with this team. Dude should be blocking for Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

Mack was a good pick...the problem is he shouldn't HAVE BEEN THE PICK. The trade down of stuff we got was flat out garbage.

Haden was good until his decline..not a bad pick

Taylor had his moments, but man...I don't know what happened to him.

Shelton is still there, but he ain't no Vince Wilfork.

The rest aren't that redeemable or excused at this point. Just flat out busts.

 

[macbdog]

...at home with Tolzien at QB for the Colts rather than Brissett in the dome in Indy. Look, good for the Rams for straightening out their offense with better coaching, but they always had talent. Browns are a year away and coaching wasn't the problem... talent was the problem.

So the FO is to blame? Because they have spent 5 draft picks on the reciever corps and inherited a Pro Bowler in Terrelle Pryor. It isn't like they couldn't address this problem because they were focused elsewhere- they have used several resources specifically on this area.

 

[The Oi]

You guys loved Hue and were on board with him for a whole rebuild three games ago.

 

[Triple-S]

So the FO is to blame? Because they have spent 5 draft picks on the reciever corps and inherited a Pro Bowler in Terrelle Pryor. It isn't like they couldn't address this problem because they were focused elsewhere- they have used several resources specifically on this area.

You can only address so many needs in so little of a time frame. There's been two drafts.

2015-Coleman, Ogbah, Nassib, Scobert, Kindred and Devalve I've seen contribute on this team.
2017-Peppers, Njoku, Ogonjobi, Kizer, and Gonzales thus far seem to be the contributers from this team. I cannot put Garrett up there.

To their credit...they seem to have at least found some talent. Some of it still needs work...but it's there. It's just not showing up in the recieving game save for Devalve, Njoku, and Coleman. Two tightends and a #2 receiver....

 

[Randolphkeys]

So the FO is to blame? Because they have spent 5 draft picks on the reciever corps and inherited a Pro Bowler in Terrelle Pryor. It isn't like they couldn't address this problem because they were focused elsewhere- they have used several resources specifically on this area.

That draft produced one high pick who has shown more than I expected at receiver, but he has injury concerns. It also provided a promising tight end who looked good the first two games in Devalve. The rest were day three, and never get your hopes up for day three.

 

[sportscoach]

All I need to say is we are way way way too worried about this loss to the Colts. This is still a rebuilding year and yes there is issues with the team and yes we should have won this won by pregame projections, but that being said, this is the youngest team in the league with a young coach. They will be going through growing pains and will make mistakes, but you have to allow them time to grow and get better. Hue needs to develop these guys and sometimes losses can teach more than wins. I think as the season goes along they will actually play a lot better and make a lot less mistakes. You get rid of a penalty here and a catch a ball here, and this team actually won this game.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

All I need to say is we are way way way too worried about this loss to the Colts. This is still a rebuilding year and yes there is issues with the team and yes we should have won this won by pregame projections, but that being said, this is the youngest team in the league with a young coach. They will be going through growing pains and will make mistakes, but you have to allow them time to grow and get better. Hue needs to develop these guys and sometimes losses can teach more than wins. I think as the season goes along they will actually play a lot better and make a lot less mistakes. You get rid of a penalty here and a catch a ball here, and this team actually won this game.

Every year the Browns lead the league in games where if we only made 1-2 more plays we would have won for sure!!! Amazing how consistent we are at that!!!