Week #6 - Arizona Cardinals @ Cleveland Browns (-2.5) - 4:05 p.m. on Fox

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Always hopeful and tend to “reset” after a tough loss, but this could get ugly. Baker seems distracted and I have not seen KS that deflated after a game in his brief time here. Team needs to store last weekend as a short term memory. Perhaps best thing could be a return of Jarvis Landry to boost psyche. Containing Kyler Murray likely a fool‘s errand. Possibly another shoot-out, but can we keep pace…
 
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I like our chances better than I did against the Chargers. Chandler Jones possibly missing the game would be big for us.

Kyler has slowly came down to earth after his hot start. Still dangerous but I don't think he'll tear through our defense like Herbert did.

Cardinals rank 28th in rush defense, so we may be able to have another good game on the ground. Their pass defense isn't as good as the Chargers, so I'm expecting a good overall offensive game. I think if we can avoid turning the ball over we have a good shot to win.

FWIW, Cardinals fans seem to be the best and least toxic fans I've encountered so far this season. They're rational and seem to see this game as a real threat and losing as a real possibility. Chargers fans were great too.

Stefanski has never lost two games in a row boyos and has an 80% win percentage at home for his career (stupid Raiders and Ravens games last year) - let's keep the winning going!
 

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Vegas knows something about this game and the line moved back up from Browns -2.5 to now Browns -3 (according to DraftKings). If Kyler's shoulder is sore, it could have a big impact on his ability to make throws on the run. No Rodney Hudson, no Maxx Williams and potentially no Chandler Jones would bode well for the Browns. It sounds like Ward, Newsome, Greedy, JOK, Wills will all play. If we can get Conklin, Clowney and Landry back, then I think our odds are good. In the two losses the Browns have had this year, I thought the other team was even or had the better coach on the opposite sideline. I don't think you can say the same about Kliff vs. Stefanski....
 

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No Rodney Hudson.

Gotta bring heat right up the gap- the DL scheme for Fields is the exact scheme I’d use this week.

Max Garcia most likely gets the start. He is almost 30 year old guard who is the backup center, played in 5 games with only 1 career start in 5 years. He has only 137 career snaps in those 5 years. The average team runs 75 offensive plays or so...so he has a total of about 2 games experience as a 30 year old and mostly playing guard.

IMO, the most important line position is not LT but center, this cant be stated enough, the Malik's should have a field day.
 

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Vegas knows something about this game and the line moved back up from Browns -2.5 to now Browns -3 (according to DraftKings). If Kyler's shoulder is sore, it could have a big impact on his ability to make throws on the run. No Rodney Hudson, no Maxx Williams and potentially no Chandler Jones would bode well for the Browns. It sounds like Ward, Newsome, Greedy, JOK, Wills will all play. If we can get Conklin, Clowney and Landry back, then I think our odds are good. In the two losses the Browns have had this year, I thought the other team was even or had the better coach on the opposite sideline. I don't think you can say the same about Kliff vs. Stefanski....

You thought Brandon Staley is a better coach than Stefanski going into the game? Based off what?

I mean, yeah... in hindsight now Staley was the better coach that day. Not sure I would've said that going into the game though.
 

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You thought Brandon Staley is a better coach than Stefanski going into the game? Based off what?

I mean, yeah... in hindsight now Staley was the better coach that day. Not sure I would've said that going into the game though.

I'll tell you one thing - Vegas learned a lot about this Browns team in both the Vikings and Chargers road games. The Browns could have swept their road challenges if the defensive backs and offensive tackles stayed healthy.

There are concerns for the Browns come post-season, but they have answered more questions than most fans give them credit for answering.
 

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You thought Brandon Staley is a better coach than Stefanski going into the game? Based off what?

I mean, yeah... in hindsight now Staley was the better coach that day. Not sure I would've said that going into the game though.

I don't know if Staley is better but I would say we did not have the coaching advantage that game. It was the Chargers who came back in the 4th, executed and did what they had to do to win. We didn't. It is not all on Stefanski but his play calling the last two drives was not good.
 

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Vegas knows something about this game and the line moved back up from Browns -2.5 to now Browns -3 (according to DraftKings). If Kyler's shoulder is sore, it could have a big impact on his ability to make throws on the run. No Rodney Hudson, no Maxx Williams and potentially no Chandler Jones would bode well for the Browns. It sounds like Ward, Newsome, Greedy, JOK, Wills will all play. If we can get Conklin, Clowney and Landry back, then I think our odds are good. In the two losses the Browns have had this year, I thought the other team was even or had the better coach on the opposite sideline. I don't think you can say the same about Kliff vs. Stefanski....

Kyler’s shoulder during the game was fine.

He… always has these “minor” injuries when he plays not so well. He makes it super dramatic.

The line probably went up because Jones/Hudson, two elite players, are out.

@Lee and I’d favorite Cardinal, Rondale Moore, is going to be how they probably cause an easier read for blocking, even more so than normal.
 

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Kyler’s shoulder during the game was fine.

He… always has these “minor” injuries when he plays not so well. He makes it super dramatic.

The line probably went up because Jones/Hudson, two elite players, are out.

@Lee and I’d favorite Cardinal, Rondale Moore, is going to be how they probably cause an easier read for blocking, even more so than normal.

Why do you like Rondale so much? Kyler is allot of fun to watch too....except this Sunday he wont be, but he is really good.
 

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