Andre Drummond - LeBron's Robin

[Murph]

I was just thinking this yesterday. I was wondering about Zubac and Beverly. I would do it

Yes, it a win-win-win-win. I hope it happens.

 

[cabs]

I'm not high on that trade. Beverly isn't very good, not a great fit and he's owed 27mil over the next 2 seasons. McGruder is a g-leaguer who is owed 10mil over the next 2 seasons. Zubac is decent and has a good contract but doesn't make up for all that + not sure he is the type of player to be a 30min starter. The pick is likely to be very low.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

There was a piece in cleveland.com today that makes the argument that it's probably better to trade him at the deadline. It would give execs half a season to evaluate their money situation with no fans and also their playoff chances.

I think the Cavs are in a good spot. If JBB can get Drummond playing complementary ball and contributing to wins similar to a Tristan Thompson but with more scoring and rim protection then we could sign him long term and get a valuable piece for nothing. If he doesn't work out he's a free agent after this season and we weren't going to the Finals in '20-'21 anyway. Now we have that $30 million to add to the roster and only one more year of Love's $30 M on the books.

 

[Murph]

Drummond needs to understand that he is more a good contributing piece than a difference maker. The Pistons gave him difference maker money. I am not sure any team will do that again.

Drummond needs to go to a team where he’s a complementary player. He needs to be the 3rd or 4th offensive option. He needs to go to a contender. Its a waste of everyone’s time and money for him to play in Cleveland.

If he resigned with the Cavs, he’d be 32 and at the end of his next contract by the time the Cavs are ready to contend.

 

[avs2000]

Drummond needs to go to a team where he’s a complementary player. He needs to be the 3rd or 4th offensive option. He needs to go to a contender. Its a waste of everyone’s time and money for him to play in Cleveland.

If he resigned with the Cavs, he’d be 32 and at the end of his next contract by the time the Cavs are ready to contend.

Do not want extend him at all. But he will have a lot of value with that 28 million expiring to a contender

 

[Vipra]

Here are a few trade ideas floated by people daydreaming like us (but who get paid to daydream). These ideas should silence the Bring-McGruder-to-Cleveland lobby.

1. Garland, Drummond, and picks for Westbrook (https://factoryofsadness.co/2020/10...t-gm-cle-should-call-about-russell-westbrook/)

2. Jrue, NAW, #13 for Love and #5 (https://pelicandebrief.com/2020/10/12/new-orleans-pelicans-central-division/3/). May be this trade can be tweaked to keep Love and send Drummond.

3. Ben Simmons for a mystery package (https://factoryofsadness.co/2020/08/09/ben-simmons-cavs-trade-rumors/)

4. I had floated Rubio and #10 for Exum, Garland, and #5 - but people sorta hated it.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

Here are a few trade ideas floated by people daydreaming like us (but who get paid to daydream). These ideas should silence the Bring-McGruder-to-Cleveland lobby.

1. Garland, Drummond, and picks for Westbrook (https://factoryofsadness.co/2020/10...t-gm-cle-should-call-about-russell-westbrook/)

2. Jrue, NAW, #13 for Love and #5 (https://pelicandebrief.com/2020/10/12/new-orleans-pelicans-central-division/3/). May be this trade can be tweaked to keep Love and send Drummond.

3. Ben Simmons for a mystery package (https://factoryofsadness.co/2020/08/09/ben-simmons-cavs-trade-rumors/)

4. I had floated Rubio and #10 for Exum, Garland, and #5 - but people sorta hated it.

I think all of these trades are pretty awful, and I have no clear idea what any of them are trying to accomplish.

If it was Oubre and #10 for Exum, Garland, and #5 that makes way more sense for us.

If we could acquire Simmons without trading Sexton I'd be interested, but I'd imagine Philly would want him in any trade.

I wouldn't want Jrue at all. He's a free agent at the end of the year and will be 31. If we could facilitate Jrue to a 3rd team I'd consider it, but Love and #5 is a bit of a steep price to pay.


Due to the circumstances, I think we wait until the deadline to move Drummond unless we get blown away. If teams aren't allowed to have fans in arenas, the financial impact is going to be very real. Because of Gilbert and Drummond and Exum's contracts, we're one of the few franchises that will be able to not only weather the storm financial but also help teams dump salary for expiring money.

There's going to be a number of teams that aren't serious contenders that are going to need to cut salary in the coming years. Since Dan's other businesses are printing money and the Cavs have a fully renovated arena sitting and waiting, they're not going to be afraid to spend money when everyone else is cutting it.

 

[daddywags]

Whether we trade Drummond or not I wouldn't take on any money beyond this season. Next year's free agent class could be stacked and cap room would be much more valuable than expiring contracts. Not to sign a FA but to facilitate move(s) by other teams.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

Whether we trade Drummond or not I wouldn't take on any money beyond this season. Next year's free agent class could be stacked and cap room would be much more valuable than expiring contracts. Not to sign a FA but to facilitate move(s) by other teams.

It will be interesting to see what happens this season. There's just too much that's unknown in terms of the cap and the potential effects of a full season with no fan or any further issues with China. If the cap sees a decent drop, we could see a lot of guys exercising options because there just isn't as much available money as previously expected. That would be the main reason why I wouldn't necessarily wait.

 

[daddywags]

It will be interesting to see what happens this season. There's just too much that's unknown in terms of the cap and the potential effects of a full season with no fan or any further issues with China. If the cap sees a decent drop, we could see a lot of guys exercising options because there just isn't as much available money as previously expected. That would be the main reason why I wouldn't necessarily wait.

That's a fair point. I hope the Cavs front office can get s solid fix on what the NBAs economic future looks like. Won't be easy but pretty much every owner, player and agent are going to be fixated on that question over the next two or three months.

 

[Murph]

I'm not high on that trade. Beverly isn't very good, not a great fit and he's owed 27mil over the next 2 seasons. McGruder is a g-leaguer who is owed 10mil over the next 2 seasons. Zubac is decent and has a good contract but doesn't make up for all that + not sure he is the type of player to be a 30min starter. The pick is likely to be very low.

Beverly is a defensive specialist. He's the kind of player who is incredibly annoying if he's playing against your team, but you love him if he's playing for your team. He's quite a bit better than Dellavedova.

The Cavs could include him in a trade package. He has value.

 

[sailfish]

It's coming to the point I rather have the Cavs trade him. He thinks he's the #1 option when he's not. I won't be shocked,if the Cavs trade him..

Drummond certainly wouldn’t be the first player to overestimate his value. If he can’t accept his role as a defender, rebounder, & P&R guy then you deal him. I think he would be a great fit on the Celtics, where he would have to take e back seat to Tatum, Brown, & company.

 

[CavsFan07]

Drummond certainly wouldn’t be the first player to overestimate his value. If he can’t accept his role as a defender, rebounder, & P&R guy then you deal him. I think he would be a great fit on the Celtics, where he would have to take e back seat to Tatum, Brown, & company.

If he accepts that role, yes, he would definitely be good on the Celtics. The Celtics have some pieces/picks they could give up for him.

The problem is.... they won't want to re-sign him anywhere near the level of $$ that Drummond would want. Kemba is making $35+ mil a year the next 3 years (puke), Browns' extension kicks in after this next season (4 years $100 Million), and Tatum can be re-signed for the (likely) super-max after next season.

Just no way the Celtics would be able to afford him.

 

[cliffdawg]

Lol@Drummond do he really think he has any pulled with this franchise, I believe we wouldn’t lose any sleep if he decided not to pickup his option, and if he does come back he have to play his ass off to be revenant in today game If wants to get pay next year, I really believe it’s a win win situation for us.......

 

[Murph]

If he accepts that role, yes, he would definitely be good on the Celtics. The Celtics have some pieces/picks they could give up for him.

The problem is.... they won't want to re-sign him anywhere near the level of $$ that Drummond would want. Kemba is making $35+ mil a year the next 3 years (puke), Browns' extension kicks in after this next season (4 years $100 Million), and Tatum can be re-signed for the (likely) super-max after next season.

Just no way the Celtics would be able to afford him.

The Celtics would offer Hayward's expiring contract and one of their 1st rounders for Drummond and filler. The Cavs would probably go for that.

The Celtics could resign Drummond to 4 years at $100 million easily. And if anyone can get Drummond to play the right way it's Brad Stevens. That guy's a genius.