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Andre Drummond - LeBron's Robin

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If Bickerstaff is willing to pull him when he's stinking up the joint, and Drummond doesn't cause any problems in the locker room, then I'm fine keeping him. But that's also because I don't see any feasible trades we could make that I would really want.
 
I wish we could realistically keep Drummond on a reasonable deal. I don’t want to trade him for peanuts.


I would like to keep Drummond also. Allen with Drummond at backup is a good combo. However, there's no money for him next year. Both Allen and Sexton are due significant raises. Those raises with a say 5-6 million for a draft pick salary will put the cavs close to the tax line. So it would cost the cavs a lot more than whatever salary Drummond gets to keep him. Also considering that Drummond is likely gone next year would not trade McGhee.
 
I don't like what it does to this team's chemistry when he pouts. His body language i guess has looked okay for a few hours... but, like everything about Drummond's game, let's see how long he can sustain it.
...This time...

Idk, I think you get him out of here while you still can get something. Also, I need to see JA develop more quickly... not sure I wanna see that guy coming off the bench for the next four years.
 
Idk, I think you get him out of here while you still can get something. Also, I need to see JA develop more quickly... not sure I wanna see that guy coming off the bench for the next four years.
There is no way Drummond is on the cavs next season, just like there was no way TT was gonna be on the cavs this season.. no matter how many times Fedor writes about it lol

I dont mind it for rest of season because it could keep Allen's price down in extension talks, but then you risk him maybe not wanting to sign long term if he becomes unhappy off the bench this season. I think Allen knows how much we've been into him now though and view him as long term starter
 
Drummond said in his interview

"We don't want cute games, we don't want easy games. We are going to make it ugly, we are going to make it hard and may the best team win. Night in night out that's us."

JB has brainwashed these guys, and it's awesome.
 
Drummond said in his interview

"We don't want cute games, we don't want easy games. We are going to make it ugly, we are going to make it hard and may the best team win. Night in night out that's us."
Well, his game isn't cute, that's for sure, but it's usually pretty effective.

As for trading him, that would be ideal if possible. Allen could pick up most of his minutes with McGee taking the rest and I don't think the Cavs get hurt much. If they can pick up a young player with potential and an expiring contract to make the salaries match then it makes sense to get something for the future instead of just letting Drummond walk.

By the way, that quote makes me think of the Detroit Pistons of Laimbeer, Rodman, Thomas, Dumars, Salley, and Mahorn. Win ugly.
 
He reminds me of Morpheus. Both physically and mentally.
From Wikipedia:

Morpheus is a god associated with sleep and dreams.The god Morpheus has the ability to change his own shape and manipulate reality, as well as the power to bewitch other people's minds with dreams and fantasies.

So you're saying he's bewitched the player's minds with dreams and fantasies? Like maybe an NBA Championship this year?

Or are you saying he looks like Lawrence Fishburn? Or both?
 
From Wikipedia:

Morpheus is a god associated with sleep and dreams.The god Morpheus has the ability to change his own shape and manipulate reality, as well as the power to bewitch other people's minds with dreams and fantasies.

So you're saying he's bewitched the player's minds with dreams and fantasies? Like maybe an NBA Championship this year?

Or are you saying he looks like Lawrence Fishburn? Or both?

Let's agree on both?

I think he looks like Lawrence Fishburn and he has that Morpheus vibe.

Personally, I think we should have his nickname Morpheus.
 
Who says no to this trade?

Cavs get: Zeller, Monk, McDaniels, Richards
Hornets get: Drummond


On the surface may not seem like something the Cavs are interested in, but a few reasons the Cavs do it:
1. McDaniels and Richards are 2 young prospects that fit the style of players the Cavs are trying to get on this roster. McDaniels is a long and athletic combo forward with potential to be an adequate shooter from 3, while Richards fits the profile of a rim protecting/lob threat center.
2. While Drummond has made a significant impact this year, I could see Koby moving off of him even if the return is not overwhelming in order to move towards the future. While I get the team is much more competitive this year, I keep thinking back to how Koby traded Clarkson for 2 2nds in order to open up more opportunity for Garland, Sexton, and KPJ. I could see the same thing happening here in order to get Allen into the starting 5.
3. Koby also mentioned in the recent presser that this year was about figuring out who we were and not the year we would be "putting the foot on the gas". With Drummond all but gone after the season ends, there is a part of me that thinks Koby would be interested in getting Drummond off the roster to get a better idea of where this team is at without him given he is not a future piece.

Whether or not the Hornets would do this I'm not sure. They do have some young guards themselves and could use the benefit of having a guy like Drummond anchoring them defensively and providing an inside presence who can pass the ball on offense (when engaged). Would also give them a long look at Drummond to see if he is someone who could fit with them long-term for the low cost of some expiring contracts and a few marginal prospects.

As for the 4 for 1 trade, this was the only way to get to salary math that would work. Assuming McGee gets moved at some point as well (possibly into Brooklyn's disabled player exception), the roster is down to 13 and we would only need to waive Dean Wade (or possibly even waive Monk if the Cavs do not view him as a player they want to get a look at).
 
Who says no to this trade?

Cavs get: Zeller, Monk, McDaniels, Richards
Hornets get: Drummond


On the surface may not seem like something the Cavs are interested in, but a few reasons the Cavs do it:
1. McDaniels and Richards are 2 young prospects that fit the style of players the Cavs are trying to get on this roster. McDaniels is a long and athletic combo forward with potential to be an adequate shooter from 3, while Richards fits the profile of a rim protecting/lob threat center.
2. While Drummond has made a significant impact this year, I could see Koby moving off of him even if the return is not overwhelming in order to move towards the future. While I get the team is much more competitive this year, I keep thinking back to how Koby traded Clarkson for 2 2nds in order to open up more opportunity for Garland, Sexton, and KPJ. I could see the same thing happening here in order to get Allen into the starting 5.
3. Koby also mentioned in the recent presser that this year was about figuring out who we were and not the year we would be "putting the foot on the gas". With Drummond all but gone after the season ends, there is a part of me that thinks Koby would be interested in getting Drummond off the roster to get a better idea of where this team is at without him given he is not a future piece.

Whether or not the Hornets would do this I'm not sure. They do have some young guards themselves and could use the benefit of having a guy like Drummond anchoring them defensively and providing an inside presence who can pass the ball on offense (when engaged). Would also give them a long look at Drummond to see if he is someone who could fit with them long-term for the low cost of some expiring contracts and a few marginal prospects.

As for the 4 for 1 trade, this was the only way to get to salary math that would work. Assuming McGee gets moved at some point as well (possibly into Brooklyn's disabled player exception), the roster is down to 13 and we would only need to waive Dean Wade (or possibly even waive Monk if the Cavs do not view him as a player they want to get a look at).

Who gets waived in that trade? Without draft capital coming back, I have no interest in helping other teams in our conference. Especially for long term salary.
 
Who says no to this trade?

Cavs get: Zeller, Monk, McDaniels, Richards
Hornets get: Drummond


On the surface may not seem like something the Cavs are interested in, but a few reasons the Cavs do it:
1. McDaniels and Richards are 2 young prospects that fit the style of players the Cavs are trying to get on this roster. McDaniels is a long and athletic combo forward with potential to be an adequate shooter from 3, while Richards fits the profile of a rim protecting/lob threat center.
2. While Drummond has made a significant impact this year, I could see Koby moving off of him even if the return is not overwhelming in order to move towards the future. While I get the team is much more competitive this year, I keep thinking back to how Koby traded Clarkson for 2 2nds in order to open up more opportunity for Garland, Sexton, and KPJ. I could see the same thing happening here in order to get Allen into the starting 5.
3. Koby also mentioned in the recent presser that this year was about figuring out who we were and not the year we would be "putting the foot on the gas". With Drummond all but gone after the season ends, there is a part of me that thinks Koby would be interested in getting Drummond off the roster to get a better idea of where this team is at without him given he is not a future piece.

Whether or not the Hornets would do this I'm not sure. They do have some young guards themselves and could use the benefit of having a guy like Drummond anchoring them defensively and providing an inside presence who can pass the ball on offense (when engaged). Would also give them a long look at Drummond to see if he is someone who could fit with them long-term for the low cost of some expiring contracts and a few marginal prospects.

As for the 4 for 1 trade, this was the only way to get to salary math that would work. Assuming McGee gets moved at some point as well (possibly into Brooklyn's disabled player exception), the roster is down to 13 and we would only need to waive Dean Wade (or possibly even waive Monk if the Cavs do not view him as a player they want to get a look at).

Thoughtful first post. Not sure that deal gives enough return for the Cavs to move Drummond. Miles Bridges might change that conversation quickly though.
 
Who gets waived in that trade? Without draft capital coming back, I have no interest in helping other teams in our conference. Especially for long term salary.
My thought on who would get waived is Monk or Wade in this scenario. The only salary that extends beyond the current year in this deal is Richards who is guaranteed $1.5 mil (McDaniels' contract is $1.7 mil non-guaranteed). Regardless, I can understand not thinking this is enough return to do such a deal.
 
Drummond is fully capable of a 20/20 game where he shoots 100% from the field and still manages to play losing basketball. It’s really incredible.
 

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