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Isaiah Hartenstein: wowing people in Vegas

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Okay that was his first 3 in 2 years! My bad......big mistake. I'm sure a lot don't understand but you just don't correct your shooting by working on it for a couple days. You're either a good shooter with good form or you're not. It's not easy to "just work on your shooting." It's not like turning on a switch. But there's tons of ways Isaiah can contribute without being a knockdown 3 point shooter.

First off nobody in this thread thought he would become a good shooter in a couple of days, you're taking that out of context. The entire point was DOES he have the form and technique capable of becoming at least a decent 3 point shooter...

There's plenty that's just blatantly wrong with the bolded part of your post. You're either a good shooter with good form or you're not? There's been an abundance of players enter the league 'not very good shooters' who ended up being very, very good shooters.

Kyle Lowry is the first one to come to mind.... lets start off by noting he was so bad at shooting in college that Jay Wright basically didn't even allow him to shoot the 3....

Year 1: Only 8 attempts the entire season
Year 2: 25.7% from 3PT
Year 3: 25.5% from 3PT
Year 4: 27.2% from 3PT

Year 5: 37.6% from 3PT.... and has remained a pretty solid / respectable shooter ever since then.


So he probably just started getting luckier and didn't work on his form / practice his shot a ton, right?
 
Oh there’s plenty of posts on Okoro’s thread that he should spend a little time mastering his 3 pt. shooting. I should ignore those posts but it’s hard to do when you know how hard it is to improve shooting. There are a few exceptions that you can find if you research long enough for major improvements. But it’s not an easy process. Those players have lived in a gym willing to fix their shot. It takes a player willing to admit that his shot is broken and you spend thousands of hours for a year or two to improve significantly. But yes I know if you don’t deal with thousands of kids shooting as a job it’s hard to understand.
 
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There are a few exceptions that you can find if you research long enough. But it’s not an easy process. Those players have lived in a gym willing to fix their shot. It takes a player willing to admit that his shot is broken and you spend thousands of hours for a year or two to improve significantly. But yes I know if you don’t deal with thousands of kids shooting as a job it’s hard to understand.

I don't see a single post on this thread stating that shooting or even fixing a shot is easy. I don't see anything even near that type of comment actually so I'm not sure what you're even trying to prove here.

Isaiah Hartenstein is 22 years old and is a professional basketball player. He's not some high school kid who wants to start varsity next year but doesn't want to put in time.

If his technique isn't broken then it seems like he'll have plenty of time to get in a gym and shoot thousands of shots considering it's literally his job to work on his game.
 
Try the Okoro thread or comments on Stevens. I’m not going to get into a shooting argument with fans. Worked with way too many shooters. And it’s not easy to change muscle memory.

Hartenstein might be the greatest 3 point shooter ever but I somehow doubt that since nobody else has allowed him to shoot them.
 
Hartenstein might be the greatest 3 point shooter ever....

Which is something that hasn't been argued by anyone here. Complete straw man.

The discussion was whether he could potentially develop into a competent (for a big man) three point shooter, not some 40+% world-beater. Kind of like LNJ has.

It isn't common, but it can and does happen, and the posters discussing the possibility don't deserve the condenscending dickishness with which you have responded.
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Big men are much more likely to add shooting later. Lamarcus, Horford, Lopez.

That said, his FT% sucks
 
I miss the old days when C's were there to pound underneath the hoop, rebound and push each other around. Wes Unseld, Bob Lanier, Elmore Smith, Thurmond et al, weren't asked to shoot 3's. Today's game is ragged and broken. Sorry but I don't care for positionless b-ball.
 
Oh there’s plenty of posts on Okoro’s thread that he should spend a little time mastering his 3 pt. shooting. I should ignore those posts but it’s hard to do when you know how hard it is to improve shooting. There are a few exceptions that you can find if you research long enough for major improvements. But it’s not an easy process. Those players have lived in a gym willing to fix their shot. It takes a player willing to admit that his shot is broken and you spend thousands of hours for a year or two to improve significantly. But yes I know if you don’t deal with thousands of kids shooting as a job it’s hard to understand.
I've been asked to clarify something so here goes. Comeback Kid was Dean Wade's assistant high school basketball coach for 2 years. Everything else that has been claimed I've not been able to confirm.
 
I've been asked to clarify something so here goes. Comeback Kid was Dean Wade's assistant high school basketball coach for 2 years. Everything else that has been claimed I've not been able to confirm.

Yeah well he’s trained 45,673 student athletes in shooting so discussing Hartenstein’s possible potential from the 3pt cannot be mentioned without discussing the shooting post in the Okoro thread.
 
I don’t expect the kid to be a knock down shooter...but would be nice to see if he can at least keep the defense honest on a wide open 3. We’ll see.
 
Would be nice if he develops into a poor man's peak Brad Miller on offense, set picks with some nice passing and respectable outside shot (that's good enough for a backup center for JA) ...
 
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