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Isaiah Mobley: 2023 SL MVP

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“But anyone that falls to the 2nd round is a borderline NBA player. It doesnt matter if t was to cowtow to his brother or not, its a fucking 2nd round pick!”
DON’T TELL MARK PRICE THAT ;)!!!!
Or Dymont Green
 
“But anyone that falls to the 2nd round is a borderline NBA player. It doesnt matter if t was to cowtow to his brother or not, its a fucking 2nd round pick!”
DON’T TELL MARK PRICE THAT ;)!!!!

For every Mark Price, there are 3 that never make it to the NBA from the2nd round and 10 that are out of the league in 3 years.

I didnt say 2nd rounders never work out, I said they are worth the risk.

But congrats, you found one that worked out, so did Boozer, Danny Green, and a host of others.
 
I’m not as upbeat about him. I watched him live and he didn’t seem like an NBA player to me, but I’m rooting for him now.
 
For every Mark Price, there are 3 that never make it to the NBA from the2nd round and 10 that are out of the league in 3 years.

I didnt say 2nd rounders never work out, I said they are worth the risk.

But congrats, you found one that worked out, so did Boozer, Danny Green, and a host of others.
I was just being funny! Reeeeeeelax
 
Mobleys biggest problem in college was that he wasn’t in shape. From all the pics I’ve seen, I’d say he is definitely improved that area. Will be fun to watch in Vegas. I think he can really play…time will tell.
Totally agree. He might be the least athletic big I've seen in the modern S&C era. Not sure how much he can improve but even a 10% gain will be dramatic
 
For every Mark Price, there are 3 that never make it to the NBA from the2nd round and 10 that are out of the league in 3 years.

I didnt say 2nd rounders never work out, I said they are worth the risk.

But congrats, you found one that worked out, so did Boozer, Danny Green, and a host of others.
Cedi Osman, Anderson Varejao. The Cavs do have a solid history of finding guys that can contribute rotationally as second rounders, even if they don't play for the Cavs (see: Harris, Joe). Even guys like Kapono become solid rotational guys. Looking for a star in the 2nd - that’ll rarely happens. Looking for a guy that can play 15 solid minutes off the bench? That's not terribly rare.

For years, Cavs fans pined after 2nd round pick Michael Redd.

Expectations for Mobley are rotational big that can pass, shoot better than most bigs, and eat around 15 minutes a game. We already know he can pass and is pretty solid at shooting - so it is just about performing at NBA level. Don't expect him to start except in emergencies.
 
His playmaking really is special for a big man. His assist percentages are in line with what Al Horford put up in college at Florida, but with lower turnover rates. Horford was a lottery pick and has been a cusp All Star throughout the years, but Mobley was a McDonald's All American for a reason. His strengths aren't a mirage or luck.

If he can become a more consistent shooter, he is a viable stretch big in a few years.
Don't let Heat Check or some of the other I. Mobley deniers see this. They're convinced that big brother is a stiff who will never be more than a G League sub.
 
But folks keep saying he's a borderline NBA player on a wasted pick just to cowtow to his brother...
Even if he is a pick just to cater to Evan, who gives AF? Bengals had Jordan Palmer at backup QB for the whole time Carson Palmer was QB and he’s pure trash. Who cares. When you have a star you do little things like this to cater to them. It’s called respect. In this case it’s just a plus that Isiah has potential. I wouldn’t care if he was pure booty cheeks.
 
I’m not as upbeat about him. I watched him live and he didn’t seem like an NBA player to me, but I’m rooting for him now.
Crazy how this stuff works.


I remember watching Anthony Bennett at UNLV and thinking he was gonna be a 15 time all star, and dude probably gave the NBA 82 games of solid play in 6+ years.


Thing working for Isiah is his pedigree and size.
 
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It’s easier to improve conditioning than it is to increase BBIQ, or increase height for that matter. Sometimes it is finging the right motivation. Maybe getting him into an NBA gym with some top trainers and dieticians will turn things around for him. But it is probably more important to keep him playing, eveni if it is in Canton.
 
He obviously got in shape as part of the pre draft process, I’d suggest the Cavs told him to get in shape if he wants to get picked, he did, so they picked him. I’m 100% bullish on his role going forward, skills are there, he was McDonald’s all American and produced as top player on top20 team last year.
 

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