Jarrett Allen: Nice Head of Hair

[kidduck]

Chones talked about the lingering concussion symptoms on the post-game radio show. He said that
he had a concussion and it took him over a month after the main symptoms to start feeling
normal again.

 

[adam81king]

Chones talked about the lingering concussion symptoms on the post-game radio show. He said that
he had a concussion and it took him over a month after the main symptoms to start feeling
normal again.

And every chicken little complaining that "he doesn't want to be here," and "he's playing like crap" should have their noses shoved in it.

This board is ridiculously hyperbolic and schizophrenic with a chicken little attitude mixed in. "He's a top 5 center in the League!" when he comes in... "He's playing like crap and we shouldn't resign him!" after coming back from a *BRAIN INJURY*... Y'all are doing the same thing with Hartenstein now...did the same thing with Wade...hated Love until he came back, thought he was Yoda for a few games, then hate him again...

This is an awkward roster in a VERY long, compressed, and challenging year. Instead of changing like Cleveland weather, why not give your takes more than a couple games to formulate? Or take the full picture into consideration?

This shit is tiring trying to keep up.

 

[bigfoot5415]

I felt concussion symptoms for a full month before I recovered. I then proceeded to have 3 more concussions in an 18 month period.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

I felt concussion symptoms for a full month before I recovered. I then proceeded to have 3 more concussions in an 18 month period.

Once you have one it's easier to get the next. I'm wondering if Allen is just trying to get through the season without getting another one. He saw what happened with Delly, who was out for months. A second concussion at this point would be bad. Maybe the Cavs should just shut him down because he's not helping at all when he's playing like he doesn't want to be in the game.

 

[RchfldCavRaised]

And every chicken little complaining that "he doesn't want to be here," and "he's playing like crap" should have their noses shoved in it.

I saw Cavatt and Rich raising concerns that something is wrong with him in this thread, which is mirroring what has been talked about by myself and quite a few posters in game threads since he returned. This was the 3rd game of concerns for his play and seeming imbalance/inability to catch/inability to take any contact.

It has been clear since his return that he's not 100%.

Having that substantiated by Chones isn't cause for other concerned posters to not be concerned about Allen, it's cause for posters to be even more concerned with why he's back in game action when he clearly isn't 100% and why the org has him out there playing impaired if he's already been designated as one of our building blocks. Isn't the likelihood that he can suffer another concussion higher right now?

He's clearly affected in his gameplay and approach to the game. He's playing passive and avoiding contact, why did we play him 32 minutes against Chicago and DNP-CD Wade who might have pulled Vuc out of the paint? Why did we play him 35 mins against Golden State?

Waking up and seeing Chones substantiate what we've been wondering about for the last 3 games turns my concern for JA into frustration for the org, honestly.

 

[Cavatt]

I hope this is injury because it looks bad.

It's also true he wasn't playing great before the concussion.

I'm not sure what to think. He's been getting bullied night in and night out

 

[CavsFan07]

I saw Cavatt and Rich raising concerns that something is wrong with him in this thread, which is mirroring what has been talked about by myself and quite a few posters in game threads since he returned. This was the 3rd game of concerns for his play and seeming imbalance/inability to catch/inability to take any contact.

It has been clear since his return that he's not 100%.

Having that substantiated by Chones isn't cause for other concerned posters to not be concerned about Allen, it's cause for posters to be even more concerned with why he's back in game action when he clearly isn't 100% and why the org has him out there playing impaired if he's already been designated as one of our building blocks. Isn't the likelihood that he can suffer another concussion higher right now?

He's clearly affected in his gameplay and approach to the game. He's playing passive and avoiding contact, why did we play him 32 minutes against Chicago and DNP-CD Wade who might have pulled Vuc out of the paint? Why did we play him 35 mins against Golden State?

Waking up and seeing Chones substantiate what we've been wondering about for the last 3 games turns my concern for JA into frustration for the org, honestly.

You're not allowed to discuss or have opinions that differ even slightly from adamking's. He likes to get on here and attempt to talk down to people asking questions by saying they're 'whining' when in reality it's him whining in return.

The concern for Allen is real, no matter the cause or motive. And if it's because he's still having lingering issues from the concussion then the team needs to shut him down IMMEDIATELY. That would be foolish on their end not to do so.

 

[adam81king]

You're not allowed to discuss or have opinions that differ even slightly from adamking's. He likes to get on here and attempt to talk down to people asking questions by saying they're 'whining' when in reality it's him whining in return.

The concern for Allen is real, no matter the cause or motive. And if it's because he's still having lingering issues from the concussion then the team needs to shut him down IMMEDIATELY. That would be foolish on their end not to do so.

You're allowed to make yourself look as foolish as you want...no one is stopping you.

 

[CavsFan07]

You're allowed to make yourself look as foolish as you want...no one is stopping you.

Isn't that exactly what you're trying to stop others from doing? Well, in your mind anyway.

 

[adam81king]

Isn't that exactly what you're trying to stop others from doing? Well, in your mind anyway.

It's exhausting reading uninformed and out of context hyperbole from people that want to jump to the worst conclusions. Many people don't do that. Some do. Unfortunately, the ones that do, do so A LOT. I completely skip the game thread because of it. No one is stopping you, or anyone else, from doing it.

 

[Ramtheman93]

And every chicken little complaining that "he doesn't want to be here," and "he's playing like crap" should have their noses shoved in it.

This board is ridiculously hyperbolic and schizophrenic with a chicken little attitude mixed in. "He's a top 5 center in the League!" when he comes in... "He's playing like crap and we shouldn't resign him!" after coming back from a *BRAIN INJURY*... Y'all are doing the same thing with Hartenstein now...did the same thing with Wade...hated Love until he came back, thought he was Yoda for a few games, then hate him again...

This is an awkward roster in a VERY long, compressed, and challenging year. Instead of changing like Cleveland weather, why not give your takes more than a couple games to formulate? Or take the full picture into consideration?

This shit is tiring trying to keep up.

You're 100% right that a lot of people overreact constantly regarding this team and the players on it. But I think in the case of Allen it is fair to be concerned. I don't normally like to judge a player off of a single game, but watching him playing Detroit last night he looked like a shell of what he was a few months ago. He had no energy, wasn't engaging on the offensive end with Garland, and was getting bodied by a smaller rookie on the defensive end, all the while hanging his head looking defeated from the tip. Now I think he'll turn it around because I believe he's a talented young center but its totally warranted to be worried because we're expected to pay this guy something near $20 million per year this offseason, and we can't do that confidently unless he goes back to the way he was playing pre concussion.

 

[Rich]

Eh people dismissing it aren't getting the context.

Allen has been a 20-25 minute a night bench player his whole career before coming here.

Now we're talking about paying him big time starter money.

We don't have another year to judge him. This is it. These games matter quite a bit.

If I had a whole bunch of tape telling me Allen was a 25 million a night guy, I'd dismiss it.

But I don't have that.

 

["MVP"]

Is there a stat for lob deflections? Pistons guards threw some easy lobs right over his head that Jarrett Allen of old would have easily swatted away.

He's just not playing with the same energy he once was for us. And it makes the decision to throw big money his way more difficult.

 

[kidduck]

Allen will have to develop an offensive game outside of 5 feet to be a high caliber
starter for a playoff team. When I say playoff team, I mean a team that is winning
at over .500 clip.

He doesn't have the bulk to play bully ball and we saw last night
how easy it is to defend the lob.

He has completely abandoned the jumper from just inside
the FT line he showed earlier.

In his own way, he is clogging the lane that has similarities to
Drummond. Not the same way, but similar results.

I'm not throwing him under the bus, just reminding myself
that those first games with the Cavs were a flash of
what could be.

Get healthy big guy and make the critics eat their doubts.

 

[Green Lantern]

I saw Cavatt and Rich raising concerns that something is wrong with him in this thread, which is mirroring what has been talked about by myself and quite a few posters in game threads since he returned. This was the 3rd game of concerns for his play and seeming imbalance/inability to catch/inability to take any contact.

It has been clear since his return that he's not 100%.

Having that substantiated by Chones isn't cause for other concerned posters to not be concerned about Allen, it's cause for posters to be even more concerned with why he's back in game action when he clearly isn't 100% and why the org has him out there playing impaired if he's already been designated as one of our building blocks. Isn't the likelihood that he can suffer another concussion higher right now?

He's clearly affected in his gameplay and approach to the game. He's playing passive and avoiding contact, why did we play him 32 minutes against Chicago and DNP-CD Wade who might have pulled Vuc out of the paint? Why did we play him 35 mins against Golden State?

Waking up and seeing Chones substantiate what we've been wondering about for the last 3 games turns my concern for JA into frustration for the org, honestly.

Agree with this..Allen doesn't look like the same player before he got hurt..and why have him out there for stretches ,then take him out?
Leave him on the bench until he's good to go.