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Ochai Agbaji: 70 days a Cavalier

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How is Ochai going to do?

  • He's an all-star SG

    Votes: 8 5.4%
  • A quality starter for years with a solid skill set

    Votes: 36 24.5%
  • That 3 & D guy in the rotation that every team values

    Votes: 69 46.9%
  • Hangs around the league for a while but is on min salary in 4 years

    Votes: 23 15.6%
  • Has a few good games, but never earns his rookie salary

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • Total bust

    Votes: 7 4.8%

  • Total voters
    147
  • Poll closed .
2 usually handles the ball. 3 is shoot or cut.

No rookie was guarding Lebron anyway.

We'll find out if he can guard most 3s and that's all that matters
The three’s that he can’t—the LeBrons, Durant’s, even Tatum’s—no one defends alone anyway.

Even with a 6’9 guy like Eason you wouldn’t throw him out there to defend on an island. You defend those guys as a team. Really, everyone is defended as a team, but specifically these guys.

And fortunately, as a team, we have Allen and Mobley at the basket to protect the rim, and either can flash to double or switch in the pick and roll. Mobley specifically can be our gadget defender to switch and shut off these guys inside the arc.

You’d simply ask Agbaji or Okoro to keep the player in front of them, force the contested jump shot. If they are making shots all day in your face, and we start running them off the line, we get aggressive and funnel them right to our towers.
 
A guard all through college is now a forward in the NBA? I’ll have to see it to believe it. Ochai is a 2.
Yep. They’re not “interchangeable.”
 
A guard all through college is now a forward in the NBA? I’ll have to see it to believe it. Ochai is a 2.

College is so different, but for the record, Kansas played a 3 guard 2 foward offense. They started2 SG's and no SF. Basically Ochai played SF in college, it's silly to try and say the games translate perfectly to position.
 
There is positive examples of smaller guys guarding taller players too, like Jrue, Tony Allen etc. Ofc those are some of the very best ever, but if you have a stocky and strong body, long reach and have the IQ for it, it's doable. Short reach is Okoro's downfall, otherwise he'd be better. We will see.

I'm getting more and more hyped about Ochai btw. His movement shooting is going to be so nice and such a weapon go utilize. Always fun to have those guys. I imagine his impact as a more in control Cedi in those Cavalanche games. And better defense too.

And watching more video of him, one thing that surprised me was his passing. He's not a bad passer. Maybe not off the dribble but he makes a lot of smart little correct passes the flow of the game requires. Shows his off ball IQ there too. Thats going to be great for us moving forward. Ochai could be a nice connecting piece not just a play finisher, and what more could you ask.
 
College is so different, but for the record, Kansas played a 3 guard 2 foward offense. They started2 SG's and no SF. Basically Ochai played SF in college, it's silly to try and say the games translate perfectly to position.
The issue is defense. Ochai was the 4th tallest of the KU starting 5 and was not matched up against size.
 
I'm gonna love this guy but I'm gonna loathe missing out on Jalen Williams.
Hard for me to loathe missing in someone who we had no opportunity to pick.

I loathe the ones we could have picked but chose to pass on like SGA or Halliburton in the lottery of 2018 and 202 or Keldon Johnson in 2019 with the pick we took Windler with.

Or the draft trade in 2012 when we traded up for Zeller with picks we could have used to pick Draymond, Khris Middleton, and Jae Criwder
 
Hard for me to loathe missing in someone who we had no opportunity to pick.

I loathe the ones we could have picked but chose to pass on like SGA or Halliburton in the lottery of 2018 and 202 or Keldon Johnson in 2019 with the pick we took Windler with.

Or the draft trade in 2012 when we traded up for Zeller with picks we could have used to pick Draymond, Khris Middleton, and Jae Criwder

I don't usually loathe picks. Particularly in the case of SGA because yes he's better then Sexton. But Sexton is still one of the top 8 players from his draft and we picked him at 8. So we didn't waste the pick. SGA was very clear he didn't want to be here. And some people disagree but that does matter. We saw it with KPJ. Other issues were involved but he has said in interviews after going to Houston he didn't like Cleveland being a boring town and was glad to get traded.

Haliburton is a rare case. I liked Haliburton a ton as a prospect but also knew he would never get drafted by us because Altman wouldn't draft Point Guards with 3 straight lotto picks. So I don't loathe something I knew had no shot of happening.

Johnson pick though hurts. Because reports indicated he was the pick before the Cavaliers changed at the last minute because Beilein who didn't even last 1 season wanted Windler. Coaches having a big say in picks always backfires in Cleveland. Scott with Waiters. Brown with Bennett. Belein with Windler.
 
Hard for me to loathe missing in someone who we had no opportunity to pick.

I loathe the ones we could have picked but chose to pass on like SGA or Halliburton in the lottery of 2018 and 202 or Keldon Johnson in 2019 with the pick we took Windler with.

Or the draft trade in 2012 when we traded up for Zeller with picks we could have used to pick Draymond, Khris Middleton, and Jae Criwder
For me its drafting Sexton over Mikal Bridges.
 
I don't usually loathe picks. Particularly in the case of SGA because yes he's better then Sexton. But Sexton is still one of the top 8 players from his draft and we picked him at 8. So we didn't waste the pick. SGA was very clear he didn't want to be here. And some people disagree but that does matter. We saw it with KPJ. Other issues were involved but he has said in interviews after going to Houston he didn't like Cleveland being a boring town and was glad to get traded.

Haliburton is a rare case. I liked Haliburton a ton as a prospect but also knew he would never get drafted by us because Altman wouldn't draft Point Guards with 3 straight lotto picks. So I don't loathe something I knew had no shot of happening.

Johnson pick though hurts. Because reports indicated he was the pick before the Cavaliers changed at the last minute because Beilein who didn't even last 1 season wanted Windler. Coaches having a big say in picks always backfires in Cleveland. Scott with Waiters. Brown with Bennett. Belein with Windler.
Beeline liked Windler and then broke him before we even got to play with the new toy
 

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