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What's the best basketball comparison for James Harden?

  • Paul Pierce

    Votes: 27 34.6%
  • Kobe Bryant

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • Manu Ginobili

    Votes: 4 5.1%
  • Dion Waiters

    Votes: 8 10.3%
  • Alonzo Gee

    Votes: 6 7.7%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 30 38.5%

  • Total voters
    78


Thanks to @Smooth for the screen grab. I'm sure that Mitchell is downplaying his involvement in the Harden trade. I'm not saying he gave a directive to the FO that Garland needed to go but probably figured that Garland's injury was going to keep holding him back this season and sold Harden on seeking a trade to Cleveland as Harden had mentioned to him that he would most likely be moving on from LAC either this season or in the offseason
 
Can't believe people drive these on Cleveland streets....

 
No insult intended towards DG, but Harden really ups both our floor and our ceiling. It certainly helps that Mitchell defers to him in a way he never deferred to DG.
 
Chris Mannix, SI

CLEVELAND — As the minutes ticked by in the fourth quarter on Monday, a sold-out crowd inside Rocket Arena was becoming restless. The Cavaliers had largely dominated Game 2 against the Toronto Raptors, leading wire to wire, swelling their edge to as much as 16 points. Yet with 4 ½ minutes left the Raptors had sliced that lead to single digits. Scottie Barnes was cooking. RJ Barrett, too. An improbable comeback seemed at the very least possible. Until five straight points from Donovan Mitchell, then a steal and some free throws from James Harden. Just like that, Cleveland’s two-headed monster stopped Toronto’s surge in its tracks.

“Donovan and James closed it for us,” said Cavs coach Kenny Atkinson. “This was a superstar game.”

This was what Cleveland was hoping for when it took its swing in February, dealing away Darius Garland, breaking up its core four, betting big that Harden could propel this team to greater heights. Plenty of digital ink has been spilled on Harden—on his regular-season success, on his playoff failures, on his wanderlust when situations go south—but with the Cavs seizing a 2–0 series lead with a 115–105 win, it’s clear that this player, this talent, this was what this team needed.

In February, after Sports Illustrated reported the Cavs were closing in on a Harden deal, Mitchell made it a point to reach out to him. Over the years a friendly rivalry evolved into a friendship on Adidas-funded trips to Europe and China. They had trained together during offseasons but never really imagined teaming up. Suddenly, they were thrust together, two All-NBA playmakers at career crossroads, two stars craving playoff success.

In Harden, Mitchell saw a kindred spirit. There are 450-some odd players in the NBA but only a fraction of which understand what it’s like to play under the microscope, and all the pressure that comes with it. “It is,” Mitchell told SI on Monday morning, “a lonely place.” For all of Mitchell’s individual accomplishments, team success has eluded him. The Cavaliers had flamed out in the second round in back-to-back years, and in Cleveland they wondered if one more early exit would have Mitchell looking elsewhere. Harden brought with him an injection of urgency.

Says Mitchell, “He wants it just as bad as I do.”

Around the Cavs, praise for Harden is universal. Longtime staffers use the L word—as in, LeBron—to describe Harden’s maniacal work ethic. On Monday, Harden was in Rocket Arena around 8 a.m., firing up shots hours before Cleveland’s scheduled team shootaround at the practice facility some 20 minutes away. Told of it, Atkinson offered a shrug. “Routine,” he says. There are two practice schedules, Atkinson told me, the Cavs’ and Harden’s.

In more than two decades of coaching Atkinson has observed some special talent. He coached Stephen Curry as an assistant in Golden State, was around Kevin Durant for parts of a season in Brooklyn. He puts Harden’s drive up with theirs. “They’re just in another stratosphere in terms of what they’re capable of doing,” says Atkinson. After the trade, Atkinson watched Harden run through individual workouts. He was stunned by the speed and effort Harden practiced with. Holy s---, Atkinson recalled thinking. It’s on.
Understandably, there was some concern about incorporating a ball-dominant player like Harden in midseason. Atkinson feared Mitchell might be too deferential, bowing to Harden’s years of seniority. Nope. Mitchell continued to be Cleveland’s alpha, with Harden making it clear that he was there to support Mitchell. Atkinson describes basketball conversations between the two as the kind of discourse you should sell tickets to.

Says Atkinson, “It’s like two guys from Harvard debating some equation.”

Mitchell has been asked to play off the ball more, which he insists he never had an issue with. He did it in Utah, when he played alongside Mike Conley, and in Cleveland with Garland. To prepare for teaming with Harden, Mitchell says he studied Bradley Beal during his time in Washington. Beal made a couple of All-Star Games playing alongside John Wall, splitting time on and off the ball, and Mitchell envisioned similar success.

“I’m not perfect at it,” says Mitchell. “But [Harden] has made my life easier.”

Others, too. For years, big men have thrived playing alongside Harden. Joel Embiid won an MVP with Harden as his running mate. Ivica Zubac had a career year last season with Harden throwing him lobs. In Cleveland, Jarrett Allen’s scoring jumped four points after Harden came on board, with his shooting percentage rising to 70.5%. On Monday, Evan Mobley scored 25 points on 11-of-13 shooting. “One thing I’ve learned is he’s become a master at that,” says Mitchell. “Manipulating the game, getting them going, because he knows that we don’t thrive without them.”

Harden didn’t arrive in Cleveland with a sterling reputation as a defender, but the Cavs will swear up and down he has made an impact on that end of the floor, too. Teams aren’t picking on Harden, they say. “He’s smart, he’s big and he’s savvy,” Atkinson said. Harden had five steals in Game 2. After one swipe, when Harden redirected Mobley so he could jump the passing lane, Atkinson said to himself “that’s part of the reason we traded for him.”

Harden has brought his best to Cleveland, and now Cavs fans have to wonder—how far can it take them? Cleveland has a commanding series lead against Toronto, with a matchup against the winner of the suddenly competitive Orlando-Detroit series waiting in the second round. Boston and New York would be favored against the Cavaliers in the conference finals, but one of them is going home before they get that far. Inside the Cavs, they know: The opportunity is there. The time is now.

Late Monday, Harden and Mitchell sat at a podium in black, sweat-soaked Cavaliers sweatshirts, with neither looking impressed. They combined for 58 points in Game 2, connecting on 22 of 37 from the floor. But they didn’t team up for this. First-round wins, been there, done that. These two are after more than that. These two want more.
 

When the Cleveland Cavaliers scoured the league for the player who could launch them into championship contention, they found what looked like the perfect answer.

Back in February, the Cavs zeroed in on a genius playmaker who had been an All-Star 11 times, the NBA’s leading scorer on three occasions, and the MVP. By some miracle, James Harden was available to them in a trade—and Cleveland pounced.

There was just a small issue, one that any fan of Harden’s former teams from Philadelphia to Los Angeles could have warned the Cavaliers about.

Harden may be one of the greatest players ever to grace the hardwood in the regular season. But when the games matter most, the unstoppable offensive machine who revolutionized the sport somehow forgets how to score.

The past week has been Cleveland’s untimely introduction to their new star’s Dr. Jekyll-and-Mr. Hyde act. In back-to-back outings, over Games 3 and 4 of their first-round series, Harden coughed up more turnovers (15) than he made field goals (11). And from a 2-0 series lead, the favored Cavaliers found themselves locked at 2-2.

“We didn’t shoot the ball well,” Harden said. “Too many turnovers.”

The truly remarkable thing about Harden’s duds is that they didn’t even come close to registering as the worst postseason outings of his career. Harden has made the playoffs in each of the 17 seasons he has been in the NBA, with six different franchises, the longest streak of any active player in the league.

But one number shows just how badly the 2018 MVP tends to wilt in the biggest moments. Harden’s elite contemporaries—LeBron James, Stephen Curry and Kevin Durant—have played in 622 playoff games and shot below 30% from the field a combined 28 times.

Harden, meanwhile, has played in 177 playoff games—and fallen below that mark a whopping 32 times.

For the vast majority of his NBA career, Harden had been the perfect superstar of basketball’s analytics age. After an early-career trade from the Oklahoma City Thunder to the Houston Rockets, Harden developed an approach where he hunted only the most valuable shots in the sport: layups (the closest to the rim), 3-pointers (the highest return on investment), and free throws.

A cross the large sample size of the regular season, the plan worked. Over a three-year stretch starting in 2017-18, Harden led the NBA in scoring each season, setting a career high of 36.1 points per game in 2019.

“I’m not a system player,” Harden said when he was traded to the Los Angeles Clippers in 2023, on the heels of leading the NBA in assists. “I am a system.”

But the Harden system has come with one serious drawback. Every spring and summer, it seems to break down. Over the pressure test of a seven-game series, defenses can study Harden’s go-to moves and devise counters. Throw in a stricter whistle from referees, who are less inclined to award fouls when Harden swerves out of the way to draw contact, and basketball’s great machine goes haywire.

In the last game of the Clippers’ 2025 season, Harden missed six of eight shots in a Game 7 loss to the Denver Nuggets. In another Game 7 loss to the Celtics in 2023, Harden, then on the Philadelphia 76ers, missed eight of 11.

Perhaps his most infamous moment came at the end of his MVP season, when—in yet another Game 7—his Rockets missed 27 straight 3-pointers in a loss to the Golden State Warriors. Harden had fired away 13 times from behind the arc. He’d made two of those shots.

“It’s extremely frustrating,” Harden said that night.

Harden’s latest chapter is not yet written, and he’s holding out hope that it ends up better than what came before.

“We’re definitely confident about where we are,” Harden insisted after the Cavaliers’ Game 4 loss.

Few who have seen his playoff record can say the same.
 
Harden is still figuring out how to maximize this roster. Game 7 in the Toronto series is a great step because I saw him give the ball up to secondary playmakers.

One thing I never liked about Hardens game is he is heliocentric: He wants to pound the rock for his three point attempt, his clutch assist, or draw that foul.

Here's the problem: Our offense is better when there are more passes than dribbles.

When guys like Merrill, Strus, or Tyson get the ball, they are very capable of passing to an open big, hitting the shot, or passing it back to Harden or Donny for an open three... but they need to get the ball early enough in the shot clock to even though no about being a secondary playmaker.

I think we turned a corner with that Harden/Merrill/Strus/Tyson/Allen lineup.
 
James hasn't had enough reps with these lineups to develop a trust in the hockey assists.

Toronto disrupted our passing game and in an attempt to cut down on turnovers and intercepted passes Harden started to ISO and pound the rock more than what is healthy or most effective. If the defense is playing tight way out on the perimeter that means lanes are open elsewhere.

When we can pass and make the defense move it makes our whole offense better. We just need to be more precise with our passing, run off ball screens to get guys open to receive passes, and guys receiving passes need to find open space and step to meet the ball, then be ready for someone trying to swat it away when they do make the catch. It requires more effort from everyone, not just Harden and Mitchell.
 
James hasn't had enough reps with these lineups to develop a trust in the hockey assists
I dunno, buzz!!! I woke up today trusting James Harden with just about my whole life...

But I'm with you---hockey assists in basketball is potentially where we draw the line...
 
According to a post on Reddit, and I am assuming this is just the playoffs.

He is currently leading the league in points given up on turnovers with 19.1 PPG according to nba.com.

Just fucking abysmal and according to reports I believe Kenny has given James much authority on strategery...

We played the stupidest basketball and still should have won. It should be Cavs in six if we can get out of our own fucking way.

ETA I have no idea how the stat is calculated, it appears to be something like a +/- because EM, JA,
and DM are all high on the list.

 
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his 2 year max extension this offseason is going to cause a revolt.
 
After losing Game One,
James Harden teams are 3-10 (23 W%) in the series.

The last time he was part of a series win after dropping Game One was 2015 vs the Clippers.

Last year, the Clippers, after losing Game One on the road, pushed the Nuggets to 7.

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He's due for another series win in these circumstances.
This one vs Detroit is a good opportunity to do so.
 
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