What's Your All-Time Indians Team?

[MadThinker88]

Let's see what I can do from memory. I've been a fan since 1964.
C - Ray Fosse/Sandy Alomar Both had health problems, both hit with power and average. Fosse was probably better defensively
1B - Jim Thome he also played 3B & RF, but I've got other players for those. HoF
2B - Roberto Alomar - HoF, IMO
SS - Lou Beaudreau - heavy-hitting and good defensively. HoF Omar Vizquel is a close backup
3b - Jose Ramirez Buddy Belle was also a good hitter and great defensively.
LF - Rocky Colavito
CF - Tris Speaker - legendary HoF
RF - Manny Ramirez - HoF, IMO
DH - Albert Belle

RHP - Herb Score, Luis Tiant, Robert Feller HoF, Dennis Eckersley, Don Lemon, Sonny Siebert, Gaylord Perry HoF, Early Wynn HoF
LHP - Sam McDowell,

I've only got 9 pitchers, but at least 3 of the are hall of fame. I've only got one left-handed pitcher

Ummmm Herb was a LHP...
And Roberto Alomar is already in the HOF before he got himself banned from the game...
Overall a very good group put together....

 

[sportscoach]

@Stark

I wonder if we should do that indians/Guardians fantasy draft we did years ago once again with these new peeps and see what happens again...

 

[jjvors]

Ummmm Herb was a LHP...
And Roberto Alomar is already in the HOF before he got himself banned from the game...
Overall a very good group put together....

Obviously, I'm not in touch. How did Roberto get banned?

 

[jjvors]

Ummmm Herb was a LHP...
And Roberto Alomar is already in the HOF before he got himself banned from the game...
Overall a very good group put together....

I couldn't remember if Herb was a lefty. With that quality of pitching, we could probably get by with 9 pitchers.

 

[MadThinker88]

Obviously, I'm not in touch. How did Roberto get banned?

Hope this helps fill in the info for you... It happened in late April 2021.

Hall of Famer Roberto Alomar banned from MLB after sexual misconduct investigation | CNN

Hall of Famer Roberto Alomar has been banned from Major League Baseball following an independent investigation into an allegation of sexual misconduct in 2014, the league announced Friday.

www.cnn.com

 

[Stark]

@Stark

I wonder if we should do that indians/Guardians fantasy draft we did years ago once again with these new peeps and see what happens again...

I can work on setting it up this upcoming weekend if we'd have enough interest.

 

[sportscoach]

I can work on setting it up this upcoming weekend if we'd have enough interest.

I guess start a sign up, how many people you think we need?

 

[DCTribefan]

Masterson, Kluber, Josh Outman(which is a great last name for a pitcher), and John Axford(who I actually forgot was on the team until I saw this picture)

I believe we have a winner.

 

[DCTribefan]

The 4th is the Indian from the Village People in their alt jersey.

You had me at the alt jersey!

 

[Phills14]

Let's see what I can do from memory. I've been a fan since 1964.
C - Ray Fosse/Sandy Alomar Both had health problems, both hit with power and average. Fosse was probably better defensively
1B - Jim Thome he also played 3B & RF, but I've got other players for those. HoF
2B - Roberto Alomar - HoF, IMO
SS - Lou Beaudreau - heavy-hitting and good defensively. HoF Omar Vizquel is a close backup
3b - Jose Ramirez Buddy Belle was also a good hitter and great defensively.
LF - Rocky Colavito
CF - Tris Speaker - legendary HoF
RF - Manny Ramirez - HoF, IMO
DH - Albert Belle

RHP - Herb Score, Luis Tiant, Robert Feller HoF, Dennis Eckersley, Don Lemon, Sonny Siebert, Gaylord Perry HoF, Early Wynn HoF
LHP - Sam McDowell,

I've only got 9 pitchers, but at least 3 of the are hall of fame. I've only got one left-handed pitcher

Good list- I'd take Colavito out and replace with Albert Belle then add either Shoeless Joe Jackson or Nap Lajoie as the DH. Earl Averill also could use an honorable mention.

As far as pitchers, I think you need Kluber in there as well as Addie Joss.

 

[Stark]

Corey Kluber not being listed as a top-5 starter in club history is a travesty.

 

[jjvors]

Good list- I'd take Colavito out and replace with Albert Belle then add either Shoeless Joe Jackson or Nap Lajoie as the DH. Earl Averill also could use an honorable mention.

As far as pitchers, I think you need Kluber in there as well as Addie Joss.

Good points. I forget about Shoeless Joe and Nap Lajoie. I knew Colavito wasn't the best we had, but I couldn't remember the others. Rocky did have like 360 career homers and he led the league in RBIs once. I also considered Luke Easter, since he had the longest home run at the Stadium (485 feet into the right-field upper deck--consider that a homer could got 485 feet and now leave the park!).

Kluber had some great seasons, but who would you take away? Sudden Sam? He was faster than Kluber and a lefty. Herb Score? One of our HoF pitchers? Since I only have 9 pitchers, I'd add him as a reliever. I've heard the name Addie Joss, but I don't know anything about him.

 

[jjvors]

Good points. I forget about Shoeless Joe and Nap Lajoie. I knew Colavito wasn't the best we had, but I couldn't remember the others. Rocky did have like 360 career homers and he led the league in RBIs once. I also considered Luke Easter, since he had the longest home run at the Stadium (485 feet into the right-field upper deck--consider that a homer could got 485 feet and now leave the park!).

Kluber had some great seasons, but who would you take away? Sudden Sam? He was faster than Kluber and a lefty. Herb Score? One of our HoF pitchers? Since I only have 9 pitchers, I'd add him as a reliever. I've heard the name Addie Joss, but I don't know anything about him.

Woof! Shoeless Joe definitely beats out Rocky. Look at his career stats:

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
1908	20	PHA	AL	5	23	23	0	3	0	0	0	3	0		0	3	.130	.130	.130	.261	-17	3		0	0			/8
1909	21	PHA	AL	5	18	17	3	3	0	0	0	3	0		1	3	.176	.222	.176	.399	24	3		0	0			/78H
1910	22	CLE	AL	20	86	75	15	29	2	5	1	11	4		8	8	.387	.446	.587	1.032	220	44		0	3			8/9
1911	23	CLE	AL	147	641	571	126	233	45	19	7	83	41		56	42	.408	.468	.590	1.058	193	337		8	6			*98	MVP-4
1912	24	CLE	AL	154	653	572	121	226	44	26	3	90	35	20	54	19	.395	.458	.579	1.036	191	331		12	15			*98/H	MVP-9
1913	25	CLE	AL	148	623	528	109	197	39	17	7	71	26		80	26	.373	.460	.551	1.011	192	291		5	10			*9	MVP-2
1914	26	CLE	AL	122	513	453	61	153	22	13	3	53	22	15	41	34	.338	.399	.464	.862	156	210		5	13			*98/7H	MVP-5
1915	27	TOT	AL	128	531	461	63	142	20	14	5	81	16	20	52	23	.308	.385	.445	.830	147	205		6	11			9387/H
1915	27	CLE	AL	83	338	303	42	99	16	9	3	45	10	10	28	11	.327	.389	.469	.858	156	142		3	3			93/7H
1915	27	CHW	AL	45	193	158	21	43	4	5	2	36	6	10	24	12	.272	.378	.399	.777	130	63		3	8			87
1916	28	CHW	AL	155	659	592	91	202	40	21	3	78	24	14	46	25	.341	.393	.495	.888	166	293		5	16			*79
1917	29	CHW	AL	146	624	538	91	162	20	17	5	82	13		57	25	.301	.375	.429	.805	143	231		7	19			*79/8H
1918	30	CHW	AL	17	78	65	9	23	2	2	1	20	3		8	1	.354	.425	.492	.917	175	32		0	5			7/9
1919	31	CHW	AL	139	599	516	79	181	31	14	7	96	9		60	10	.351	.422	.506	.928	159	261		4	17			*79
1920	32	CHW	AL	146	649	570	105	218	42	20	12	121	9	12	56	14	.382	.444	.589	1.033	172	336		7	16			*7/9H
13 Yrs	1332	5697	4981	873	1772	307	168	54	792	202	81	519	233	.356	.423	.517	.940	170	2577		59	131
162 Game Avg.	162	693	606	106	216	37	20	7	96	25		63	28	.356	.423	.517	.940	170	313		7	16

 

[jjvors]

Good list- I'd take Colavito out and replace with Albert Belle then add either Shoeless Joe Jackson or Nap Lajoie as the DH. Earl Averill also could use an honorable mention.

As far as pitchers, I think you need Kluber in there as well as Addie Joss.

Amazingly, I'd replace Shoeless Joe with Napolean Lajoie. HoF and well-earned over 21 years. Amazing numbers for the dead ball era.

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
1896	21	PHI	NL	39	178	175	36	57	12	7	4	42	7		1	11	.326	.330	.543	.872	129	95		0	2			3
1897	22	PHI	NL	127	577	545	107	197	40	23	9	127	20		15	25	.361	.392	.569	.960	155	310		12	5			*3O/5
1898	23	PHI	NL	147	641	608	113	197	43	11	6	127	25		21	23	.324	.354	.461	.814	137	280		7	5			*4/3
1899	24	PHI	NL	77	337	312	70	118	19	9	6	70	13		12	7	.378	.419	.554	.974	169	173		10	3			4/O
1900	25	PHI	NL	102	471	451	95	152	33	12	7	92	22		10	8	.337	.362	.510	.872	140	230		8	2			*4/5
1901	26	PHA	AL	131	582	544	145	232	48	14	14	125	27		24	9	.426	.463	.643	1.106	198	350		13	1			*46
1902	27	TOT	AL	87	385	352	81	133	35	5	7	65	20		19	7	.378	.419	.565	.984	175	199		6	8			4
1902	27	PHA	AL	1	4	4	0	1	0	0	0	1	1		0	0	.250	.250	.250	.500	36	1		0	0			/4
1902	27	CLE	AL	86	381	348	81	132	35	5	7	64	19		19	7	.379	.421	.569	.990	177	198		6	8			4
1903	28	CLE	AL	125	525	485	90	167	41	11	7	93	21		24	26	.344	.379	.518	.896	168	251		3	13			*4/35H
1904	29	CLE	AL	140	595	553	92	208	49	15	5	102	29		27	19	.376	.413	.546	.959	200	302		8	6			46/3
1905	30	CLE	AL	65	271	249	29	82	12	2	2	41	11		17	8	.329	.377	.418	.795	148	104		2	3			4/3H
1906	31	CLE	AL	152	656	602	88	214	48	9	0	91	20		30	19	.355	.392	.465	.857	169	280		6	17			*45/6
1907	32	CLE	AL	137	561	509	53	153	30	6	2	63	24		30	28	.301	.347	.395	.742	135	201		6	13			*4/3
1908	33	CLE	AL	157	667	581	77	168	32	6	2	74	15		47	20	.289	.352	.375	.727	137	218		9	30			*4/3
1909	34	CLE	AL	128	524	469	56	152	33	7	1	47	13		35	19	.324	.378	.431	.809	151	202		6	11			*4/3
1910	35	CLE	AL	159	679	592	94	227	51	7	4	76	26		60	18	.383	.444	.514	.958	197	304		5	21			*43
1911	36	CLE	AL	90	353	315	36	115	20	1	2	60	13		26	15	.365	.420	.454	.874	143	143		4	8			34H	MVP-13
1912	37	CLE	AL	117	500	448	66	165	34	4	0	90	18	5	28	11	.368	.414	.462	.876	146	207		7	17			43
1913	38	CLE	AL	137	525	465	66	156	25	2	1	68	17		33	17	.335	.398	.404	.802	132	188		15	12			*4H	MVP-11
1914	39	CLE	AL	121	468	419	37	108	14	3	0	50	14	15	32	15	.258	.313	.305	.619	84	128		2	15			43H
1915	40	PHA	AL	129	521	490	40	137	24	5	1	61	10	6	11	16	.280	.301	.355	.656	100	174		4	15			*46/3H5
1916	41	PHA	AL	113	455	426	33	105	14	4	2	35	15		14	26	.246	.272	.312	.584	80	133		1	14			*4/37H
21 Yrs	2480	10471	9590	1504	3243	657	163	82	1599	380	26	516	347	.338	.380	.466	.846	150	4472		134	221
162 Game Avg.	162	684	626	98	212	43	11	5	104	25		34	23	.338	.380	.466	.846	150	292		9	14

 

[Criznit]

Another righty starter to consider for your team would be Stan Coveleski, master spitballer of the late teens early 20s.