Will the Real Baker Mayfield Please Stand Up?

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Both picks were awful for sure, but he was 10/18 and had a clean pocket on maybe 5 total throws and playing with bruised ribs.

We had no running attack, our offensive line got DOMINATED, and we want to put this on Baker? Prime Tom Brady would not have won this game, it was bad, very bad, but Baker was on the third or fourth reason we lost....number one was our O-line and number 2 was our d-line getting dominated. This was what was winning us games and both our lines played like shit...especially the O-Line.
Also, bad games happen; Josh "MVP" Allen looked comparably bad, against a weaker defense than PIT, that had barely practiced in its own facility for 2 weeks and had a boatload of self-inflicted distractions.
 

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That’s just nitpicking. This is what a quarterback is supposed to say! I have zero issue with him saying this at all. You never hear a QB say they’re limited by injury unless they actually physically cannot play, and that is not the case here.

Baker is going out of his way to not use his injury as an excuse for his shit play, and that’s good.
Earlier in the week he responding to questions about his injury as if he was insulted by the reporters suggesting that it might be a problem. he said “Mama ain’t raise no wuss”

he could just put his head down and give the company answers but he always finds a way to say too much.
 

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Hate him if you want, but how the Fuck is not using the injury as an excuse puting his foot in his mouth. He was asked a question and he answered, do you know how interviews work?
Earlier in the week he made a joke out of the reports asking him questions about the injury. That’s his problem. He doesn’t know how to humble himself and when it backfires he looks stupid.
 

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Earlier in the week he made a joke out of the reports asking him questions about the injury. That’s his problem. He doesn’t know how to humble himself and when it backfires he looks stupid.
Are you serious? You want him to say something different? And he stuck in there while constantly under pressure and hurt ribs. He was right, he looked tough. Even if not hurt, the pressure got him. Brady, Brees and Payton have all looked AWFUL in games with this much pressure and those might be 3 of the top 5 of all time.
 

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I don't like the lack of outside throws in this offense so far. We need to be able to make a 3-5 step drop and throw it up to our receivers.

I don't know if it's because Baker struggles with tracking the safeties while under center, or if it's just not the way they call plays. He has consistently been unable to track safeties and use leverage to his advantage. You only help an aggressive defense like that if you're not attacking it down the field on the sidelines.

We saw Ben challenging the sidelines, right? Claypool and Washington (even on the one that Ward deflected).
 

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Are you serious? You want him to say something different? And he stuck in there while constantly under pressure and hurt ribs. He was right, he looked tough. Even if not hurt, the pressure got him. Brady, Brees and Payton have all looked AWFUL in games with this much pressure and those might be 3 of the top 5 of all time.
Yes I do want him to say something different.

Look, Baker Mayfield talks entirely too much shit. His mouth writes checks that his play can’t cash. He constantly does this. For years people have been calling it his swag bout it’s really just him being ignorant when he opens his mouth. Sometimes he just needs to either shut the hell up or keep it simple but he can’t help himself.
 

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Earlier in the week he responding to questions about his injury as if he was insulted by the reporters suggesting that it might be a problem. he said “Mama ain’t raise no wuss”

he could just put his head down and give the company answers but he always finds a way to say too much.
Hey @Los216 guess what?

The answer he gives has no impact on the product on the field.

You're just getting your panties twisted into a knot and grasping at anything you can.

A young, developing QB had a bad game against a really good defense. Our offensive line was getting beaten. Our tight ends did a poor job blocking. Baker's inability to read zone coverage really showed up.

All we can do is hope these things are brought up and worked on. I give the benefit of the doubt to Stefanski/Van Pelt/Baker to work on these problems and grow. Let's hope that's warranted.
 

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Hey @Los216 guess what?

The answer he gives has no impact on the product on the field.

You're just getting your panties twisted into a knot and grasping at anything you can.

A young, developing QB had a bad game against a really good defense. Our offensive line was getting beaten. Our tight ends did a poor job blocking. Baker's inability to read zone coverage really showed up.

All we can do is hope these things are brought up and worked on. I give the benefit of the doubt to Stefanski/Van Pelt/Baker to work on these problems and grow. Let's hope that's warranted.
I think Baker is an admitted emotional player who plays with his feeling a lot on the field. It’s part of why he was lacked a gun slinger and has talked many times about playing with his “swag”

I’m not completely blaming his performance today on his big mouth. I’m just saying that too many times since he’s been here he’s talked shit off the field and it hasn’t translated on the field.
 

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He was bad today and I'm starting to get concerned that, even at his peak, he won't be enough.

That said, I don't think it is fair to blame him for a ton today. 99% of QBs would have struggled against the pressure he faced today.
 

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He was bad today and I'm starting to get concerned that, even at his peak, he won't be enough.

That said, I don't think it is fair to blame him for a ton today. 99% of QBs would have struggled against the pressure he faced today.
I’m only blaming Baker on the things he can control, and those are the biggest concerns. He still stares down receivers, he still takes too long on throws, he still doesn’t make full reads and often misses the open man for a guy in double coverage.

These are bad habits that I was hoping we’d at least see some improvement in, but the alarming thing is there really hasn’t been any improvement in those areas at all.
 

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Kind of cause and effect on protection.

If a QB can’t make a decision or an accurate throw under pressure, problems are compounded.

The way you get a defense out of what they want to do is to actually make them pay for whatever it is they are giving you.

When your QB can’t push the ball to the boundary with any success, you get what happens today. Pittsburgh was allowed to collapse the middle of the field and leave their corners out wide 1 on 1 or roaming zone areas because Baker couldn’t get the ball outside the hashes to anyone.
 
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