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That's pretty dismissive and seems like you might not be acknowledging Fournier's contract in this conversation.
An 11 pick in a deep draft is a huge amount to give up to get out of paying Fournier $18 million a year. The Fournier contract is bad but it’s not a disaster contract. You lose a lot of money by giving up an 11 pick too because especially in this draft that pick could you get a piece at rookie contract costs.

Not a trade the Knicks would do.
 
If Jaden Ivey falls to #7, you got to imagine that the Cavs will see what kind of offer they can put together. Would they do the same for Mathurin ?


The pick that seems even more certain to be on the move is Portland’s at No. 7, with sources saying the Blazers will push to immediately put a competitive team around Damian Lillard rather than start over. Detroit’s Jerami Grant has been the hot name here, but the Blazers could look at other options.
I'm a die hard Arizona homer, I'll trade everyone outside of DG and Mobley for Mathurin. :chuckle:
 
Watching Dieng videos and it is hard to ignore the insane potential he has.... and how naturally the pairing with Mobley would work....
 
I say no to that Knicks trade. Okoro is going to be better than anyone taken outside the top 3 spots this draft in 2023. Fournier's contract isn't great and moving Levert for him is a lateral move in terms of player value. Not a fan.
 
There's no way I'm taking Fourniers contract for 11.

We are a winning team now. You take that deal and the pick you make doesn't pan out you've royally fucked yourself at being able to properly round out the roster.


And while I know we all imagine ourselves as draft savant, picks regularly miss.
 
I haven't done any research on Sochen. I haven't seen him mocked outside of the top 10 yet, but with Daniels climbing he might be a guy who could potentially drop.
 
I haven't done any research on Sochen. I haven't seen him mocked outside of the top 10 yet, but with Daniels climbing he might be a guy who could potentially drop.

Sochan reminds me of Jeff Green, TT, or Brandon Clarke type player. Someone that can excel if the roster needs their specific skill set at the position they can play. I'm not sure he is a player that has a wide enough skill set to just fit in to any roster or someone you build around. I'm not sure what skill set on offense he can really lean on in the NBA.
 
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There's no way I'm taking Fourniers contract for 11.

We are a winning team now. You take that deal and the pick you make doesn't pan out you've royally fucked yourself at being able to properly round out the roster.


And while I know we all imagine ourselves as draft savant, picks regularly miss.

No way I'm doing that trade -- if it was Fournier + 11 for Levert - then I'm doing it in a second. Fournier's contract stinks, but in current NBA terms, $17M just isn't that horrendously big anymore.

What i'm not doing is selling Okoro for peanuts this offseason. I know the tape still isn't great -- but statistically he improved drastically over the last year. He's about 4-5% in 3PT shooting away from having a very obvious and valuable long term role. He's still younger than Keegan Murray or Ochai Agbaji, and like 100 days older than everybody's current crush in Tari Eason...

Who knows if he'll make it, but I'd like it to be the Cavs that find out...
 
No way I'm doing that trade -- if it was Fournier + 11 for Levert - then I'm doing it in a second. Fournier's contract stinks, but in current NBA terms, $17M just isn't that horrendously big anymore.

What i'm not doing is selling Okoro for peanuts this offseason. I know the tape still isn't great -- but statistically he improved drastically over the last year. He's about 4-5% in 3PT shooting away from having a very obvious and valuable long term role. He's still younger than Keegan Murray or Ochai Agbaji, and like 100 days older than everybody's current crush in Tari Eason...

Who knows if he'll make it, but I'd like it to be the Cavs that find out...

A major undersell
 
There's no way I'm taking Fourniers contract for 11.

We are a winning team now. You take that deal and the pick you make doesn't pan out you've royally fucked yourself at being able to properly round out the roster.


And while I know we all imagine ourselves as draft savant, picks regularly miss.
I don't see Fournier's contract as bad enough for the Knicks to part with No. 11 tbh. If they trade No. 11 outright, it will be to dump Randle so they can make a run at Kyrie.

I'd be fine trading for Fournier's contract if the Cavs weren't going to have any cap space next summer anyway. But they will.
 
I don't see Fournier's contract as bad enough for the Knicks to part with No. 11 tbh. If they trade No. 11 outright, it will be to dump Randle so they can make a run at Kyrie.
+1. #11 plus Fournier for Okoro/Levert is not a trade the Knicks would ever make because it is very one sided in our favor, so it’s pretty hilarious that people are getting huffy about how it wouldn’t be good enough for us
 

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