WWE Network Thread

[MoFlo]

I figured this deserves its' own thread.

 

[MattyFos.]

Okay it must be hit and miss for the time being. Regardless the Network is a 10

 

[MoFlo]

Re: WWE Road to WrestleMania starts tonight!

My Raw Review looks like this

1991
1998 nothing to display
2012
2013
2014 (most recent is Batista debut)


Is this par for the course or am I broken?

Also my CM Punk search yielded like 20 results, all televised. Raw and Smackdowns

Damn, that's pretty impressive, since Raw didn't exist in 1991 :chuckles:

 

[MattyFos.]

Re: WWE Road to WrestleMania starts tonight!

Haha. I'm sure I mis remembered my dates.. must have been 1993. The first episode is titled First Raw or something along those lines.

Currently watching 1999 (?) WCW Spring Stampede

Bam Bam Bigelow vs The Sandman renamed as Hak in a hardcore match

 

[Jack Brickman]

I loved Sandman. He was just some dude with a beer gut and a high pain tolerance.

 

[Derek]

Been on a kick the last two days

Wrestlemania 2000. Wrestlemania X7, Vengeance 2001, ECW Anarchy Rulz 2000

I keep getting overwhelmed with all the access I have and it takes me awhile to decide what to watch. I never ordered PPVs when I was younger (pre-2002) so the one's I know about are by reputation alone. Anybody want to give me a list of good ones to watch? I've already done most of the major well known ones.

 

[col63onel]

Been on a kick the last two days

Wrestlemania 2000. Wrestlemania X7, Vengeance 2001, ECW Anarchy Rulz 2000

I keep getting overwhelmed with all the access I have and it takes me awhile to decide what to watch. I never ordered PPVs when I was younger (pre-2002) so the one's I know about are by reputation alone. Anybody want to give me a list of good ones to watch? I've already done most of the major well known ones.

Do No Mercy from 1999. It was in Cleveland. Hardy's vs Edge and Christian in a ladder match. Phenomenal.

 

[BMAN]

Shit...judging by all the posts, I take it it's worth to get the network? How much does it cost?

 

[Derek]

Shit...judging by all the posts, I take it it's worth to get the network? How much does it cost?

$9.99/month and you're locked in for 6 months

Full access to the WWE/WCW/ECW archives PPV/TV

NXT Arrival (Best WRESTLING show around right now)

Watch PPVs live (That means Wrestlemania which is usually $60 by itself)

 

[Derek]

I'm currently watching all the old WarGames matches

WrestleWar '91
Sting, Pillman, and the Steiner Bros. vs The Four Horsemen

Spoiler: El Gigante makes an appearance after Sid Vicious botches some Powerbombs

 

[Jack Brickman]

Let's be real here...10 bucks a month for the amount of shit you can find in WWE TV is nothing. And this is coming from someone who hasn't watched wrestling in over a decade. There's so much good shit to watch.

 

[MattyFos.]

Watching some old WCW stuff today. Wow is the in ring work garbage. It's sloppy. People aren't selling moves, just really lazy stuff. Except for the cruiserweights obviously.
I'm sure WWF Attitude was atrocious as well. Have to look into it. But WWE has come so far over the last 15+ years with conditioning, move sets and talent development.

Actually I'm disappointed a bit with modern WWE. We don't see as many suplexes, body slams, DDTs etc as were used in the 90s.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Watching some old WCW stuff today. Wow is the in ring work garbage. It's sloppy. People aren't selling moves, just really lazy stuff. Except for the cruiserweights obviously.
I'm sure WWF Attitude was atrocious as well. Have to look into it. But WWE has come so far over the last 15+ years with conditioning, move sets and talent development.

Actually I'm disappointed a bit with modern WWE. We don't see as many suplexes, body slams, DDTs etc as were used in the 90s.

Yeah, WCW is borderline terrible to rewatch today. It's almost sad how few standout wrestlers they had.

The main problem with the WCW was that basically all of their top guys were slow, plodding guys that only used a couple of moves. Stone Cold was a pretty pedestrian in-ring guy, but the eight to ten moves he used were still about four more than Hogan ever learned. You need to base your program around dynamic guys, and the WCW never pushed the ones they had. The WWE is doing something similar right now (bringing back guys nobody wanted like Batista and ramming him down everyone's throats) and it's backfiring on them.

The Attitude era was, in my opinion, vastly superior. There were some boring wrestlers, to be sure, but the WWF actually had quite a bit of talent on their roster, and a lot of the guys were willing to do some pretty crazy shit.

Mick Foley, for example, wasn't a good wrestler, but he was a good mic guy and he was basically willing to kill himself to give the crowd an unforgettable moment. I think everyone who watched wrestling back then remembers him getting chucked off the Hell in a Cell cage by the Undertaker and then chokeslammed through it, or his retirement match with Triple H where he fell through the top of the cage and broke the ring.

Then you had all those Hardy/Dudley matches. Those were just batshit insane, and stand up really well upon rewatches.

I don't remember which PPV it was in, but there was one from 1998 that has a fantastic match between Triple H and Owen Hart during their first (I think) rivalry before Owen joined the Nation.

As an aside, I've always thought that people underrate Triple H as a wrestler just because they hate him. I have no idea if he's any good now because I haven't really followed wrestling since the early nineties (aside from reading the tops here and on Grantland, and catching the occasional PPV when I'm out at a bar on a Sunday night, which kind of keeps me up to speed), but back when I watched he had quite a few great matches. Whenever he got paired up with someone dynamic, they pretty much always put on a great match. I think the real issue is that he wasted too much of his career fighting boring, plodding guys like Kane, which is probably true of a lot of the WWE's better talent.

It just really depends on who you watch. When I'm going through the Network, I can basically look at who a match involves and decide whether or not it's worth watching. I'm usually right.

 

[MattyFos.]

My main problem with Triple H is that he never truly stood out for me. He just seemed average across the board. But I'm probably seeing him through The Rock colored lenses. H put on some amazing matches at Wrestlemania recently with Taker (join the club). But throughout the Attitude Era he was behind Rocky and SCSA and I grew out of watching shortly before SCSA retired so I never got a chance to see H carry the company.

From his recent documentary it seems like H is a genius when it comes to ring knowledge and again according to the documentary he's as passionate as they come for pro wrestling and training new talent. Three things I find admirable in a guy destined to run the biggest wrestling company in the world.

 

[MattyFos.]

After watching these WCW guys like Luger, Sting, Nash, Hall, Hogan, Savage etc etc I have a new appreciation for Cena. He is a gazelle compared to WCWs top guys. Plus it's obvious these WCWers mail it in for a paycheck