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What's the difference from Tito having Hanley, Cargo, Naquin, Bauers, Kipnis in the cleanup spot? Not much. Blackhole all season.
What's the difference from Tito having Hanley, Cargo, Naquin, Bauers, Kipnis in the cleanup spot? Not much. Blackhole all season.
What's the difference from Tito having Hanley, Cargo, Naquin, Bauers, Kipnis in the cleanup spot? Not much. Blackhole all season.
Hey, in a perfect world Santana bats clean up, Lindor in the 3 hole, and Jose returns to form as lead-off or hitting 2nd with Mercado in the other slot. That way Bradley is at 5th or 6th.And look at how fondly you speak of all of those guys.
Hey, in a perfect world Santana bats clean up, Lindor in the 3 hole, and Jose returns to form as lead-off or hitting 2nd with Mercado in the other slot. That way Bradley is at 5th or 6th.
But it hasn't been so perfect for the Tribe, you can probably categorize this as a season of hell.
Not sure that is cherry-picking.I saw a chart in one of Meisels' latest articles that Ramirez, Bauers, and Martin had the 3 lowest wRC+ among AL hitters from 5/11 - 6/13. Obviously some cherry picking, very easy to do with baseball stats, and I'm not sure how many hitters qualified. With that said, it is pretty miraculous to take a step back and see the Indians are somehow 3 games above .500 despite all the things that have gone disastrous this season.
Naylor- MLB
21 G / 69 PA
.227 / .261 / .364
2 HR / 12 RBI
4.3% BB
27.5% K
Hey, in a perfect world Santana bats clean up, Lindor in the 3 hole, and Jose returns to form as lead-off or hitting 2nd with Mercado in the other slot. That way Bradley is at 5th or 6th.
But it hasn't been so perfect for the Tribe, you can probably categorize this as a season of hell.
I'm not sold on the belief that this team won't be competitive next season.
Do you remember what we gave up in 2016 for 2 1/2 years of Andrew Miller? The Indians should come close or even get more for 2 1/2 years of Brad Hand.On the other Hand, bullpen arms are more of a crap shoot from year to year and appear in half the games.
Do you remember what we gave up in 2016 for 2 1/2 years of Andrew Miller? The Indians should come close or even get more for 2 1/2 years of Brad Hand.
Hand isn’t quite on the level Miller was, but I agree that it would take a quite a bit to get me to pull the trigger.
Innings pitched Strikeouts W-L Saves ERA WHIP
Miller 2014 62.1 103 5-5 1 2.02 0.80
Miller 2015 61.2 100 3-2 36 2.04 0.86
Miller 2016 45.1 77 6-1 9 1.39 0.77
Hand 2017 79.1 104 3-4 21 2.16 0.93
Hand 2018 72 106 2-5 32 2.75 1.11
Hand 2019 30.2 46 3-2 20 0.88 0.75
Miller's 2016 stats listed were at the time of trade. Hand's stats as of 6/17/19. One can argue that Hand has been as good as Miller was.