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That's great. But don't expect anyone on a Cavaliers forum to give a flying f**k. All of your posts have been aimlessly defending this recent batch of free agents and hyping up the Miami Heat. So I ask, why are you here (Real Cavs Fans)?

I haven't been defending anyone. I only responded to a post about bad karma that I thought was ridiculous. I have no problem with you guys being mad or disappointed in Lebron.
 
I haven't been defending anyone. I only responded to a post about bad karma that I thought was ridiculous. I have no problem with you guys being mad or disappointed in Lebron.

Due to your name, I'm going to call you kid. I have a tough time believing this kid will be around long, as he has sperm (I mean spam) all over him...
 
I think Dexter Pittman will have something to say about that. Dexter Pittman is huge, and pretty strong as well. Dwight Howard won't be able to just man handle him like he did Z and Varejao in the 09 ECF

If Howard can average 22 points on 57% shooting, and have a 4 games averaging 27.8 points on 65.5% shooting against arguably the best people in the NBA to defend him, I think the only thing Dexter Pittman will have to say to Howard is "dear god, please stop"



With that being said, I'm fairly certain if it came down to Orlando vs. Miami, the biggest factor would be Howard's passing out of double teams and the 3pt shooting. I'm almost sure Miami would double Howard on nearly every possession and make him give it up so that Orlando would be dependent on 3pt shooting. Howard would probably average around 20 points a game, maybe more if they decide to give him room, but I doubt it. Offensively, I think it'll be a LOT like how it was when the Magic went against the Bobcats.

They decided to completely shut Howard out offensively, but got burned by Nelson/Rashard. The only difference here is that Miami's offense is MUCH better than that of the Bobkitties, so it would definitely be a long series.
 
I haven't been defending anyone. I only responded to a post about bad karma that I thought was ridiculous. I have no problem with you guys being mad or disappointed in Lebron.

And yet, you miraculously found this thread and responded to posts that has nothing to do with karma.
 
If Howard can average 22 points on 57% shooting, and have a 4 games averaging 27.8 points on 65.5% shooting against arguably the best people in the NBA to defend him, I think the only thing Dexter Pittman will have to say to Howard is "dear god, please stop"



With that being said, I'm fairly certain if it came down to Orlando vs. Miami, the biggest factor would be Howard's passing out of double teams and the 3pt shooting. I'm almost sure Miami would double Howard on nearly every possession and make him give it up so that Orlando would be dependent on 3pt shooting. Howard would probably average around 20 points a game, maybe more if they decide to give him room, but I doubt it. Offensively, I think it'll be a LOT like how it was when the Magic went against the Bobcats.

They decided to completely shut Howard out offensively, but got burned by Nelson/Rashard. The only difference here is that Miami's offense is MUCH better than that of the Bobkitties, so it would definitely be a long series.

Perkins shut Howard down. I'm fairly certain Dexter Pittman would at least be able to contain him.
 
Perkins shut Howard down. I'm fairly certain Dexter Pittman would at least be able to contain him.

He shut him down to the tune of 22 points on 57% shooting


That's not shutting anyone down.



Saying Pittman could contain Howard solely based on size is like saying Brandon Bass could contain LeBron James.
 
He shut him down to the tune of 22 points on 57% shooting


That's not shutting anyone down.



Saying Pittman could contain Howard solely based on size is like saying Brandon Bass could contain LeBron James.

I'm not basing it off size, I'm basing it of strength. Size i a factor, but not as big as strength. Dwight Howard usually score by man handling or overpowering his defender. He won't be able to do that against Pittman.
 
Perkins shut Howard down. I'm fairly certain Dexter Pittman would at least be able to contain him.

You're fairly certain? Dude hasn't even played one NBA game and you're fairly certain he can "contain" Dwight Howard even though he hasn't stepped on an NBA court? Wow....just wow. You're more deluded than Lebron in his little world.
 
I'm not basing it off size, I'm basing it of strength. Size i a factor, but not as big as strength. Dwight Howard usually score by man handling or overpowering his defender. He won't be able to do that against Pittman.

You're basing it off of nothing. You saying Perkins shut Howard down and saying Pittman would be able to contain Howard is enough to tell me you don't know what you're talking about. Howard wouldn't even need post moves against Pittman, he could just outrun him every time down the court, on pick and rolls, and beat him with a face-up move. Pittman would probably average 2 fouls a minute on him.
 
I'm not basing it off size, I'm basing it of strength. Size i a factor, but not as big as strength. Dwight Howard usually score by man handling or overpowering his defender. He won't be able to do that against Pittman.

Howard has been working with Hakeem this summer and even if that remotely pays off it won't matter on the opposing players strength. Howard needs a decent hook, a short jumper and you can't stop him. Pittman gives up 2-3 inches to Howard and I'm not even sure how much that is in wingspan.

The Heat will have to deal with Howard and Jameer Nelson. They don't have the 'true' position players to compete with those guys alone. I'm hoping mid season the Magic can make a trade to give them more ammunitation for the playoffs.

The Heat have 3 all stars but it doesn't mean they are going to roll or even win it all this year.
 
Unless Howard magically learns to shoot free throws, the Heat won't sweat him. They have Anthony, Z, Magloire, Pittman, and Randolph to foul him. That's 30 fouls right there. And we all know Howard will probably only play around 20 minutes vs. the heat because of foul trouble. So I think the Howard concern is a little overstated.

More of an issue is that Miami's system is about protecting the paint first, and giving up 3s. So if Orlando is red hot again they might stand a chance. Though their shooters seem to choke when they are run at by not midgets. They'll be closed on by Lebron instead of Mo Williams, which is a diffrent proposition.
 
Howard has been working with Hakeem this summer and even if that remotely pays off it won't matter on the opposing players strength. Howard needs a decent hook, a short jumper and you can't stop him. Pittman gives up 2-3 inches to Howard and I'm not even sure how much that is in wingspan.

The Heat will have to deal with Howard and Jameer Nelson. They don't have the 'true' position players to compete with those guys alone. I'm hoping mid season the Magic can make a trade to give them more ammunitation for the playoffs.

The Heat have 3 all stars but it doesn't mean they are going to roll or even win it all this year.

Is he also working with Hakeem to become mentally tougher and not get into foul trouble in big games?

I think the Heat will probably put Lebron or Wade on Nelson in the fourth quarter of games, which should lock him up. Though they also have Chalmers and Arroyo who aren't slouches at point guard.
 
Though they also have Chalmers and Arroyo who aren't slouches at point guard.

If Chalmers and Arroyo aren't "slouches", what are they? Abominations? Abortions? Not strong enough?

They're hardly useful.
 
I dont think that the Magic will be that much of a problem for the cHeats, Howard is gonna have his way against them in the post but with the way the refs calls games with Wade and #6 on the floor it wont matter. Like someone else said they have depth at center to get Howard frustrated with fouls. Only way I see the Magic winning is with Howard averaging 35ppg, 15rpg,4apg, and 4+bpg in that series with the other players hitting their shots, offense for the Magic would them a series against the cHeats, other then Howard and Pietrus, the other players one on one defense is horrible.
Thats why I think that the Celtics and the Lakers are the only teams that can beat the cHeats.

Celtics have one of the best team defensive teams as well as good one on one defenders in Rondo,Pierce,KG,Perkins, JON, Daniels and Shaq. They also have a huge advantage at PG with Rondo,their depth in the frontline, and a good bench. Their only concerns would be health and age.
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As for the Lakers they arguably have arguably have the deepest team in the league and the best player in the league in Kobe. Gasol and Bynum would outplay the Heat frontline, they have a great team defense and solid one on one defenders, too many to name. They also have a deep talented bench. The Lakers would give the cHeats too many problems, they have enough to defend Wade,#6, and Bosh as well as score on them. Their only concern would probably be health, especially Bynums.
 

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