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I was optimistic about our season until the QB play from training camp up until this point. Then our 1st team defense being shredded by the Rams 3rd string QB and 2nd team offensive unit pretty much nuked the rest. I'm not saying 3-13 or 4-12 but if we can't score, and our defense regresses. Well...

We were down like, 5 DB's, including 2 of our best 3 CB..

Not to mention, why would we show everything we have defensively in the pre-season with our best CB out?
 
I was optimistic about our season until the QB play from training camp up until this point. Then our 1st team defense being shredded by the Rams 3rd string QB and 2nd team offensive unit pretty much nuked the rest. I'm not saying 3-13 or 4-12 but if we can't score, and our defense regresses. Well...

We were 4-12 last year with a better offense and a better defense.
 
We were down like, 5 DB's, including 2 of our best 3 CB..

Not to mention, why would we show everything we have defensively in the pre-season with our best CB out?

I understand the corners were out, I was a little alarmed at the lack of pass rush. Granted you're correct in you don't want to show too much, but the Seahawks defense looks just like it did last year. Not allowing first down, much less the backups running up and down the field against our starters.
 
I understand the corners were out, I was a little alarmed at the lack of pass rush. Granted you're correct in you don't want to show too much, but the Seahawks defense looks just like it did last year. Not allowing first down, much less the backups running up and down the field against our starters.

I desire having my defense be in a comfortable place... This defense is switching schemes yearly. I want so badly to have a coach around this place as long as Carroll has been in Seattle. I'm exhausted with the constant turnover. Can't even imagine how the players feel..
 
I'll be excited to see how we fare with Haden, Skrine, and Gilbert all playing. I like our secondary quite a bit. If we can get anything depth wise from McFadden or Desir that'd be huge as well. Given that the NFL offenses today like to feature multiple WR sets (New Orleans week 2). Gipson showed the ability to be a ball hawk last year, and we know the physicality and veteran leadership from Whitner. Great depth on the DL, and hopefully our LB core begins to grow and show improvement. Kruger needs to earn his money. I love Mingo's burst, I just need him to be in the correct position and not out of the play. Kirksey looks like an absolute steal after many ridiculed the pick, as he was listed as strictly a cover linebacker.

This team is very young, and I feel we're going to see growing pains yet again. I'm just hoping that we show improvements on 3rd down, and hopefully we can go into the next draft mainly set on that side of the ball. I truly think next years draft needs to be heavily, heavily, weighted on the offensive side of the ball.
 
Buffalo tension boils over in shouting match for Marrone, Bills officials

Tension between Bills coach Doug Marrone and the team's front office spilled over recently in a loud verbal altercation on the practice field between the head coach and several team officials, according to numerous sources with knowledge of the situation, punctuating what had been a tumultuous preseason for the franchise as it awaits word on new ownership.

The Bills, currently for sale after the passing of founding owner Ralph Wilson with formal bids due by mid-September, made news in the preseason when Marrone, who can be combustible, erupted publicly after two straight days of explosive training camp fights. Issues between the coach and the media have come to the fore as well, with him now using public relations officials to address injuries during his news conferences. Behind the scenes, things have been festering as well, sources said, with the blow-up between team officials shortly before the end of the preseason and final cuts, within earshot of players, shocking many who witnessed it.

The incident began with Marrone, who sources said has had a strained relationship with director of player personnel Jim Monos from their time together in New Orleans, getting into a loud exchange with Monos in which the men were cursing at each other to the point where others noticed ("they were more or less MFing each other," is how one source put it). General manager Doug Whaley then intervened. The expletives continued and finally team president and acting owner Russ Brandon tried to defuse the situation by getting involved in an attempt to get all parties to "shut up," as one source put it. But that too escalated into more yelling and hollering, with Brandon and Marrone ultimately separated by their peers and Marrone, in earshot of players, making remarks along the lines of "go ahead and fire me," before order was restored and the team took the field for practice.

Arguments are not uncommon within NFL meeting rooms, and disagreements and debate can be healthy, but the nature of this episode -- not quarantined to a back room, and within the vicinity of players at practice -- struck several witnesses as highly unusual, as well as the fact it escalated from one official to the next. Marrone has also clashed with some players this offseason, most frequently linebacker Jerry Hughes, team sources said, and has made comments around the team which have drawn the ire of some players. Sources said Marrone has referred to himself as "Saint Doug" at times, referencing the fact that it takes two miracles to be canonized as a saint, and that he already pulled off one miracle by winning at Syracuse and alluding to the fact it would take another miracle to win in Buffalo.

The front office has also bristled at how certain players are being used, sources said. Team executives believe tackle Cyrus Kouandjio, this year's second-round pick, warranted more of a long look this summer, were unhappy that emerging receiver Robert Woods was benched at times, and they were also at odds over guard Kraig Urbik, who the personnel side believes is a quality guard (he just received a contract extension a few years back) but who Marrone has soured on (the team explored trades for Urbik before roster cuts, league sources said).

There is obvious uncertainty within the ranks as well about the future of the team, and how much change and transition is imminent with the club's sale likely finalized by the October NFL owner's meeting, and a new ownership team coming in (which generally leads to sweeping changes in short enough order). If Terry Pegula, owner of the Buffalo Sabres, has the winning bid -- and numerous league sources believe that's more or less a fait accompli --then it's less likely the franchise is overhauled right away, and could lead to fewer changes overall. Regardless, this is definitely a time when the entire organization is about to be more or less under review, a factor lost on no one there.

Expectations have been ratcheted up that this won't be another 6-10 season following successive bold moves in the first round to select under-fire quarterback EJ Manuel and then to deal next year's first-round pick as part of a package to move up and land receiverSammy Watkins in May. But Manuel's progress remains very much in doubt, Watkins was banged up in the preseason and the offensive line could be a major cause of concern as well for Marrone, a former offensive coordinator in New Orleans, who will be expected to get things going on that side of the ball.

The Bills open their season Sunday against the Bears, and perhaps the series of events this summer will serve to bond them together. But there are also reasons for concern that some of these interpersonal dynamics will only end up leading to more issues through the season, particularly if the team struggles.

Source: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...in-shouting-match-for-marrone-bills-officials

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#1 pick here we come! I just really hope Farmer is willing to use it on a QB even though he just drafted Manziel. I would not renew my season tickets if we had #1 and went anything but QB.
 
#1 pick here we come! I just really hope Farmer is willing to use it on a QB even though he just drafted Manziel. I would not renew my season tickets if we had #1 and went anything but QB.

What if there aren't any good QB options at number one? You don't draft one just to draft one. You draft one if there's a game-changer on the board.

As a side note, I love how the Browns have effectively become the rebuilding Cavs now, with us desperately tracking another team's failures in hopes of getting a nice pick out of it. It reminds me of the Lakers Watch two years ago. :chuckle:
 
Don't be surprised when the Bills are closer to 0.500 than worst team in the league. Their defense caused a lot of QBs to struggle last season, and that was while being stranded out on the field forever with their sputtering offense. I don't think Kiko's absence will be enough to nullify that, and I think once the season starts and they open up their playbook a bit, Sammy and Spiller are going to start making plays and make EJ look a lot better.

I still think they go 7-9.
 
Don't be surprised when the Bills are closer to 0.500 than worst team in the league. Their defense caused a lot of QBs to struggle last season, and that was while being stranded out on the field forever with their sputtering offense. I don't think Kiko's absence will be enough to nullify that, and I think once the season starts and they open up their playbook a bit, Sammy and Spiller are going to start making plays and make EJ look a lot better.

I still think they go 7-9.

They'll be a lot like the Browns have been. People (myself included) have been saying this exact thing about the Browns for years.. Their D will keep them in games & win them a few itself; they'll finish close to .500 & surprise a lot of people; etc..

Spiller is back on KR now, I believe, so I think they'll be riding with F-Jax mostly.. A dominant WR (which Sammy definitely isn't yet) doesn't negate bad QB play, we've also seen that first hand.
 
I don't really think Sammy Watkins is this overlord everybody has him pegged as, and even if he is, he won't be very good in his first year regardless.
 
They'll be a lot like the Browns have been. People (myself included) have been saying this exact thing about the Browns for years.. Their D will keep them in games & win them a few itself; they'll finish close to .500 & surprise a lot of people; etc..

Spiller is back on KR now, I believe, so I think they'll be riding with F-Jax mostly.. A dominant WR (which Sammy definitely isn't yet) doesn't negate bad QB play, we've also seen that first hand.

Yeah, but we keep saying that thing about the Browns, and then they finish 4-12 every year. :chuckle:
 

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