Brandon Weeden: GTFO!!

[sjhughes]

Re: The Brandon Weeden Thread

I know everyone one here is praying for bridgewater, but I for one would be pumped if we were able to land tajh boyd. Dude can straight up play, has a cannon and he is mobil. I think this year we need to address the quarterback position if Weeden doesnt figure it out because our other positions are falling into place.

 

[ajz20]

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I know everyone one here is praying for bridgewater, but I for one would be pumped if we were able to land tajh boyd. Dude can straight up play, has a cannon and he is mobil. I think this year we need to address the quarterback position if Weeden doesnt figure it out because our other positions are falling into place.

That is probably more realistic. I doubt we will have the first pick, and a team like Jacksonville will not trade it away.
We need to start being realistic that the chances of getting Teddy are going to be slim, unless we get hit with a ton of injuries.
There are 3-4 guys after TB who have first round grades including Boyd.

 

[caf]

Re: The Brandon Weeden Thread

Truth. This franchise is (or any for that matter) is worthless without an elite quarterback. Great/elite quarterbacks win superbowls not game managers. The days of Trent Dilfer being backed by a greatest defense of all time are over. We need a guy that can pick secondaries apart with his arm. Suck ass, get the quarterback, address the abortion of an interior offensive line and move forward. I'm absolutely sick of stop-gaps at the most important position in all of professional sports.

Big Ben did it in 06 and Eli did it in 08. Both were mediocre quarterbacks at best. Ben was pretty atrocious to be honest.

In all honesty Flacco is also an average quarterback at best that relied heavily on his defense as well as the outstanding skill position players on offense.

 

[godfather]

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Big Ben did it in 06 and Eli did it in 08. Both were mediocre quarterbacks at best. Ben was pretty atrocious to be honest.

In all honesty Flacco is also an average quarterback at best that relied heavily on his defense as well as the outstanding skill position players on offense.

I hate Ben, but he's not average at all. The guy is a pretty good QB. He's not as good as Peyton, or Brady, but the guy gets overlooked. I agree, Flacco and Eli aren't exactly great. They are a hell of a lot better than Weeden though. A lot better.

Those three QB's have won SB's, but their defenses were great, and loaded with outstanding skill positions around them. I rather get a great QB to speed the process. As you can see, a great QB can turn things around fast in the NFL. A two win team becomes a playoff teams with an Andrew Luck. That's the way to go.

 

[Binkster]

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I am here too. We need a bonafide franchise QB. We've swung and missed on Couch and settled for the best of what was left with Quinn and Weeden. Everyone else was a stop gap or a shot in the dark.

In very typical Browns fashion they will screw this up. The defense is really solid and Weeden is good enough to get the ball to Gordon and Richardson to win a few games. Jacksonville and Oakland are really bad and they clearly need QBs. It's going to be hard to finish worse than them IMO. I can really see the Browns getting the 3rd best QB in this draft (or worse).

Our front 7 is good enough to win us 4 games by themselves. Big games by Richardson/Cameron/Gordon could net us 5-6.

It shouldn't even be discussed as a possibility that we will finish with a record that nets us pick 1-4 in the draft.

 

[godfather]

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Our front 7 is good enough to win us 4 games by themselves. Big games by Richardson/Cameron/Gordon could net us 5-6.

It shouldn't even be discussed as a possibility that we will finish with a record that nets us pick 1-4 in the draft.

Nothing is given in the NFL. The Chiefs had what, like 9 pro bowlers? Really crappy QB play can make your team really awful.

I don't know where they'll finish. I am not disagreeing they don't have the talent to win 5, 6, and even 7 or 8 games. I think that's even possible. The team is not lacking talent at all. They're lacking a QB that can play.

But if Weeden stinks the joint up, things can go south fast and we could be looking at a 2 win season. It doesn't take much for a team to just lose their spark, mojo, or whatever when losing 4 or 5 in a row. Everyone starts pointing fingers, guys stop trusting in the system, and it can get ugly fast.

I never thought that 2 win Colt team lacked talent either. They just went from Peyton Manning to really awful guys that have no purpose being in the NFL. There's going to be a monster drop off in production.

 

[RealKingofCleve]

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Our front 7 is good enough to win us 4 games by themselves. Big games by Richardson/Cameron/Gordon could net us 5-6.

It shouldn't even be discussed as a possibility that we will finish with a record that nets us pick 1-4 in the draft.

Okay? And you don't think other bad teams in the NFL has some positions of strength? I agree the Jags look like the worst team in the league. But I don't see the Browns as clearly better than anyone else.

 

[godfather]

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The actual worst team in the NFL doesn't always have the worst record. It's not like basketball, things don't even out. You have only 16 games, and you play different opponents. Some divisions are tougher than others. Peyton Manning was added to their division, that guaranteed 2 Ls automatically. Even the Chargers although always coming up short, never lack talent. Injuries happen all the time. The Chiefs were not the worst talented team in the NFL last year.

I forget the number of pro bowlers they had. Something like 7 or something, that's not a team lacking talent! Just poor execution in a lot of those games, and just dreadful QB play is why they ended up with the worst record.

 

[chrisrich91]

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I know everyone one here is praying for bridgewater, but I for one would be pumped if we were able to land tajh boyd. Dude can straight up play, has a cannon and he is mobil. I think this year we need to address the quarterback position if Weeden doesnt figure it out because our other positions are falling into place.

Tajh is nice, but Teddy is almost a guarantee to be elite in my eyes. He can make every throw, has GREAT pocket presence even with his mobility, makes great decisions, is very accurate, and shows the ability to throw touch passes or balls on a frozen rope when the situation calls.

Settling for Tajh when there is a potential no brainer, Andrew Luck style stud to be had is EXACTLY what has gotten us into this mess to begin with. Tank for Teddy and be done with it.

 

[Ohio]

Re: The Brandon Weeden Thread

We'll be lucky to get Boyd. We all know we will win 5 or 6 meaningless games this season.

 

[sjhughes]

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I completly agree with taking bridgewater if he is there. I was just making the statement that if he is not there i would be very happy with boyd, ever since he has become the qb in clemson i have watched almost every game and I love what he could bring to the table. Here is to hoping weeden figures it out and we dont need a new qb but it is becoming more difficult to believe this.

 

[Binkster]

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The more I think about it, I actually can't believe we're discussing the possibility of landing the number 1 pick after week 1.

 

[FiveThous]

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Overreactions ftw!

 

[godfather]

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There's nothing to overreact about Eddie. Weeden sucks. This is not his first outing. I'd love to be objective, and say there's room for Weeden to grow. But is there? He can't move in the pocket, and he's not accurate. Two strikes against ever being a caliber QB that can play on a high enough level. New system, same old Weeden.

Speaking of the draft, its way too early to start thinking who we'll get. I don't know, I don't care. It's a long way to go in the college season for me to even entertain who we should get. Players stock drop and rise all the time. Most of us know there will be a change more than likely. It's not about who we get, its about getting the right guy. And having the top-5 pick doesn't guaranteed a stud QB. Being somewhere in the 6-11 range doesn't mean we can't find a guy that can really play the position.

It's up to the front office to really do their homework, and really, and hopefully, once and for all find someone that can play the position. Bridgewater, Boyd, I don't know! It's not our job to figure it out. There are really good QB's taken later in the draft all the time. Ones that end up being all-time greats. This is what the front office gets paid to do. Just find us a damn QB! We've only waited 15 billion years for one.

 

[FiveThous]

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I guess I posted that in the wrong thread, but there is enough talent on the defensive sideof the ball that is going to knock us out of the top 5 or 6. We will probably go like 7-9 and pick 8th. I think at this point Tahj, Bridgewater and Clowney have locked up top 5 spots. (Unless Tahj just has a horrific season which I just dont see happening.)

Anyone know much about Aaron Murray? He's supposedly grading out as 1st rounder talent right?