Browns "reboot" coaching search

[Amherstcavsfan]

To be fair, their plan was Saban, Kelly, Marrone.

Saban staying loyal isn't that shocking, Kelly not choosing the Browns is a little more shocking. Marrone? Yeah, that's a fucking stunner that another team hired him before we did. I guess you could add Bill O'Brien but whatever.

Probably takes more than a day to figure out who your plan E was. Fucking Joe Banner...

 

[Jack Brickman]

I can't believe we cleaned house and had Chip Kelly as the only plan.

WHOOOOOOPS!

I mean, would you rather have no coach or Shurmur? That question basically answers itself.

 

[MalTalm]

I mean, would you rather have no coach or Shurmur? That question basically answers itself.

What the Browns could have done:

Fire Shurmur, promote Jauron to HC, and bring in a new DC. Keep the rest of the coaching staff in place, and keep Heckert in charge of drafting players. If we are to believe Shurmur was that terrible of a coach (I do), this would have allowed this team to move forward with very little turmoil. Would Jauron be the best HC candidate out there? Probably not, but stability still has significant value.

Instead, we chose to clean house. So Haslam and Banner believed our current team's direction and philosophy could be improved significantly. They've taken a large risk here. If they need to settle for a candidate who is a marginally better option than Jauron, Childress or even Andy Reid, then they have failed, because installing new systems, having to gut some of our personnel, and losing a solid talent evaluator at GM isn't worth a marginal improvement at HC.

Just my two cents.

 

[JMcCurry08]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Also, <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Browns">#Browns</a> &amp; other teams should keep an eye on this name after tonight. Brian Kelly. I've been told he'll be considered by multiple teams</p>&mdash; Keith Britton (@KeithBritton86) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithBritton86/status/288374962115461120" data-datetime="2013-01-07T20:02:03+00:00">January 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Pyro]

Not quite sure how I feel about Brian Kelly. Hate Notre Dame, but wouldn't mind stealing him away.

 

[caf]

Not quite sure how I feel about Brian Kelly. Hate Notre Dame, but wouldn't mind stealing him away.

He coached here at UC before Notre Dame. Great at getting productivity out of his players.

His downside was he was a terrible recruiter and left the cupboard bare when he left. Fortunately recruiting means shit in the NFL.

 

[billmac91]

He coached here at UC before Notre Dame. Great at getting productivity out of his players.

His downside was he was a terrible recruiter and left the cupboard bare when he left. Fortunately recruiting means shit in the NFL.

I don't think his temperament will work with grown men. I think Britton is way off on this report. Brian Kelly is a college coach through and through. It'd be smart on Kelly's part to get out now with where the expectations will be year after year now.

 

[MoFlo]

Not sure why people are saying Chip Kelly was our only plan.

Saban told us he was staying.

We moved on to Kelly.

We interviewed Marrone twice.

We also interviewed Bill O'Brien, who committed back to PSU rather early in the process.

 

[The Hill]

We need to cut Haslam and Banner a little slack here. They have been tight-lipped publicly about this coaching search, so we don't know who they've lined up, who they have ranked highly (aside from Kelly), etc. Aside from firing Heckert and Shurmur, they haven't made any moves yet. Let them get a track record before we go making judgments about this regime. We have -- literally -- two moves to judge them on.

In regard to them cleaning house, I think it was the right call. Keeping Mangini for a year was probably the worst call of the Holmgren era, and may have cost him his job in that it set back his rebuild by a year. If Haslam and Banner were not sold on Shurmur and Heckert, then by all means they should have removed them and put in their guys. Are there really any home run candidates that someone else hired and we missed out on when we were talking to Kelly?

 

[Jack Brickman]

We need to cut Haslam and Banner a little slack here. They have been tight-lipped publicly about this coaching search, so we don't know who they've lined up, who they have ranked highly (aside from Kelly), etc. Aside from firing Heckert and Shurmur, they haven't made any moves yet. Let them get a track record before we go making judgments about this regime. We have -- literally -- two moves to judge them on.

In regard to them cleaning house, I think it was the right call. Keeping Mangini for a year was probably the worst call of the Holmgren era, and may have cost him his job in that it set back his rebuild by a year. If Haslam and Banner were not sold on Shurmur and Heckert, then by all means they should have removed them and put in their guys. Are there really any home run candidates that someone else hired and we missed out on when we were talking to Kelly?

I agree.

I think Heckert did a decent job while he was here, and his drafting was probably above average. That said, I think it's kind of sad when "above average" is such a huge improvement for an organization that the fans don't want to see the guy go. Heckert did a decent job, but he didn't really hit any home runs. He hired a terrible coach and missed out on a potential franchise quarterback (Russell Wilson) so that he could draft a 30-year-old rookie QB. Now, granted, some of that may have been Holmgren, but at the same time you have to lay some of the blame on Heckert as well.

With regards to coaching, firing Shurmur was a total no-brainer. I could train my dog to coach a game about as well as Shurmur. Bark once to run it up the middle. Bark twice to throw a four-yard pass on 3rd and 9. Bark three times to punt. Bark four times to kick a field goal.

 

[Surge]

Not sure why people are saying Chip Kelly was our only plan.

Saban told us he was staying.

We moved on to Kelly.

We interviewed Marrone twice.

We also interviewed Bill O'Brien, who committed back to PSU rather early in the process.

Because when the team itself comes out and says they are "rebooting" the search, I take that as starting over from the beginning.

The only guy they really chased after and offered a contract (supposedly) was Kelly. That leads me to believe that once they didn't get the guy they really wanted, we're back to square one (rebooting).

 

[Lee]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Also, <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Browns">#Browns</a> & other teams should keep an eye on this name after tonight. Brian Kelly. I've been told he'll be considered by multiple teams</p>— Keith Britton (@KeithBritton86) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithBritton86/status/288374962115461120" data-datetime="2013-01-07T20:02:03+00:00">January 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
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If Brian Kelly doesnt work, we can interview Jim Kelly and Leroy Kelly.

 

[AZ_]

If Brian Kelly doesnt work, we can interview Jim Kelly and Leroy Kelly.

I'd consider both over Brian.

 

[The Hill]

Because when the team itself comes out and says they are "rebooting" the search, I take that as starting over from the beginning.

The only guy they really chased after and offered a contract (supposedly) was Kelly. That leads me to believe that once they didn't get the guy they really wanted, we're back to squarre one (rebooting).

Here is the origin of the "reboot" term that keeps getting thrown around. It came from Chris Mortensen, not the Browns organization.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Browns owner Jimmy Haslam and execs are headed back to Browns. Sources say they will reboot coach search without Chip Kelly in the fold.</p>&mdash; Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/287968176002719744" data-datetime="2013-01-06T17:05:38+00:00">January 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[The Oi]

Hell, if none of those work out they can interview her: