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The ISIS offensive in Iraq
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Thanks man! I'm all good down here, thankfully. But it's really something extraordinary at the moment - something I thought I'd never see in our country. Just absurd.
We don't really know much at the moment other that what's been reported over the last few hours although I'd assume that there must be so much going on behind the scenes that we don't know about right now.
I just fear for these people - they look terrified which, I'd imagine, is the entire point of this whole operation and I'm getting sucked into their delusional desires. Instilling fear into the Western world.
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This wont be the last incident. There have been a constant series of statements from various government agencies that the real problem was the valid passport holders fighting for ISIS possibly returning to thier home countries and commiting acts like this. I am pretty sure they talked about something like a 100 austrailians early on....The recent statements have said something like 2000 valid passport holders from europe and the US are in Syria and or iraq fighting for ISIS..
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Do they know for sure it is ISIS, or a group related to them?
Yet, still a scary situation regardless.
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They haven't confirmed that, but indications are mixed as the man looks to be in his 40s/50s and the Islamic flags hanging in the windows are not necessarily that of Islamic State but of a more global Islamic message. Saying that he doesn't really fit the profile of the ISIS fighters that left Australia for the Middle East.
Three of the hostages just escaped - all men - and are being debriefed now for more information. Seems like there's about 15 hostages still left inside they're saying.
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I hope none of you think like this:
View: https://twitter.com/dmreporter/status/544407393451646976
Ignorant, inaccurate and infuriating stupidity.
View: https://twitter.com/dmreporter/status/544407393451646976
Ignorant, inaccurate and infuriating stupidity.
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You can't really deny that if there were multiple people armed in there, they'd have had a better chance at killing this guy than not.
Not looking to address the rest of the baggage that goes along with gun laws, but this is a situation where having guns could have worked.
Not looking to address the rest of the baggage that goes along with gun laws, but this is a situation where having guns could have worked.
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I doubt legal concealed carriers would be frequenting a hipster coffee shop. However the narrative that outlawing legal weapons would prevent the shooting and other acts of crazy is just silly. Fact is crazies kill people with guns, fertilizer, airplanes or whatever is handy, so lets address that problem rather than rolling back a constitutional right...
And before someone starts in... By crazies I mean people who no longer feel bound to and a part of our society. There are a lot of vectors to this problem, some of which is economic, and some of which is societal.. The societal part has as a component the current trend to characterize everything at the extreme. The us and them mentality leads to disenfranchised and violent..That is what needs to be fixed..
And before someone starts in... By crazies I mean people who no longer feel bound to and a part of our society. There are a lot of vectors to this problem, some of which is economic, and some of which is societal.. The societal part has as a component the current trend to characterize everything at the extreme. The us and them mentality leads to disenfranchised and violent..That is what needs to be fixed..
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If you believe that hipsters are people who drink coffee at coffee shops, I'd guess they do.
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Sounds like an ISIS sympathizer to me. US and Aussie intelligence is saying that he's acting alone and doesn't appear to have any ties to a bigger plot.
Five hostages have already escaped.
Five hostages have already escaped.
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Gunman killed and one hostage killed.
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These people aren't human...
Pakistan School Attack: Taliban Militants Kill More Than 140 in Peshawar
SHAWAR, Pakistan —Taliban militants laid siege to a Pakistan school in a brazen hours-long attack on Tuesday, killing more than 130 children in an atrocity condemned by the White House as "heinous" and "horrific."
More than eight hours after uniformed militants struck the school, the Pakistani military said the assault was finally over. Shortly thereafter, another loud explosion was heard in the city. It was not immediately clear where the explosion originated or what it was caused by.
Maj. Gen. Asim Bajwa, a military spokesman, told NBC News that at least 132 children were killed in the attack, along with 10 staff from the school — including the principal. Seven militants were killed, he added.
"They didn't take any hostages initially and started firing in the hall," Bajwa also told a press conference, according to Reuters.
At a hospital near the school, blood stained the floors. Crying relatives roamed the wards and searched operating rooms, desperately searching for their sons and daughters.
The Pakistani Taliban have claimed responsibility for the attack, which Pakistani officials said appeared to be aimed at the children of senior military personnel.
Uniformed militants struck shortly before 11 a.m. local time (1 a.m. ET) when about 500 students — in grades one through 10 — and teachers were believed to be inside.
"We were standing outside the school and firing suddenly started and there was chaos everywhere and the screams of children and teachers," said Jamshed Khan, a school bus driver.
"The gunmen entered class by class and shot some kids one by one," one student who was in the Army Public School in Peshawar at the time told local media.
As the siege continued and Pakistani security forces battled to stop the assault, five "heavy" explosions were heard from the school at around 5 a.m. ET. Bombs planted by the attackers slowed rescue efforts, a military official said, and the massacre was not declared over until after 9 a.m. ET.
Pakistani military sources said six Taliban militants had been killed at the scene. A military source who spoke on the condition of anonymity told NBC News that the attackers were wearing police uniforms and suicide vests.
"They burnt a teacher in front of the students in a classroom," he added. "They literally set the teacher on fire with gasoline and made the kids watch."
Wounded student Abdullah Jamal told The Associated Press he was getting first-aid instructions and training with a team of Pakistani army medics when the violence began for real. When the shooting started, Jamal said nobody knew what was going on in the first few seconds.
"Then I saw children falling down who were crying and screaming. I also fell down. I learned later that I have got a bullet," he said, speaking from his hospital bed. He had been shot in the leg.
Pakistan School Attack: Taliban Militants Kill More Than 140 in Peshawar
SHAWAR, Pakistan —Taliban militants laid siege to a Pakistan school in a brazen hours-long attack on Tuesday, killing more than 130 children in an atrocity condemned by the White House as "heinous" and "horrific."
More than eight hours after uniformed militants struck the school, the Pakistani military said the assault was finally over. Shortly thereafter, another loud explosion was heard in the city. It was not immediately clear where the explosion originated or what it was caused by.
Maj. Gen. Asim Bajwa, a military spokesman, told NBC News that at least 132 children were killed in the attack, along with 10 staff from the school — including the principal. Seven militants were killed, he added.
"They didn't take any hostages initially and started firing in the hall," Bajwa also told a press conference, according to Reuters.
At a hospital near the school, blood stained the floors. Crying relatives roamed the wards and searched operating rooms, desperately searching for their sons and daughters.
The Pakistani Taliban have claimed responsibility for the attack, which Pakistani officials said appeared to be aimed at the children of senior military personnel.
Uniformed militants struck shortly before 11 a.m. local time (1 a.m. ET) when about 500 students — in grades one through 10 — and teachers were believed to be inside.
"We were standing outside the school and firing suddenly started and there was chaos everywhere and the screams of children and teachers," said Jamshed Khan, a school bus driver.
"The gunmen entered class by class and shot some kids one by one," one student who was in the Army Public School in Peshawar at the time told local media.
As the siege continued and Pakistani security forces battled to stop the assault, five "heavy" explosions were heard from the school at around 5 a.m. ET. Bombs planted by the attackers slowed rescue efforts, a military official said, and the massacre was not declared over until after 9 a.m. ET.
Pakistani military sources said six Taliban militants had been killed at the scene. A military source who spoke on the condition of anonymity told NBC News that the attackers were wearing police uniforms and suicide vests.
"They burnt a teacher in front of the students in a classroom," he added. "They literally set the teacher on fire with gasoline and made the kids watch."
Wounded student Abdullah Jamal told The Associated Press he was getting first-aid instructions and training with a team of Pakistani army medics when the violence began for real. When the shooting started, Jamal said nobody knew what was going on in the first few seconds.
"Then I saw children falling down who were crying and screaming. I also fell down. I learned later that I have got a bullet," he said, speaking from his hospital bed. He had been shot in the leg.