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Thoughts from watching training camp

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All4One1ForAll said:
Your analysis was great, dude. Much appreciated.

I really hope your team/franchise gets its shit together. The fans in New York deserve a good basketball team.
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Thanks! Probably not going to happen in my lifetime but Knicks fans are gluttons for punishment.
 
A few important issues that i posted elsewhere:

Lebrons mechanics are bit less broken, he is still falling a little but its more like miami lebron jumper

Blatt had all the defensive drills include trapping and bigs helping on multiple dribble hand offs, might have even seen some zone ideas...learning form the finals and finding ways to stay big against small ball?

Offensively the 2 sets basic and through all involved multiple ball screens and weakside action that had the 3 posting up, a big flashing to the elbow or a wing running a curl through the lane. All great ways to get lebron and kevin the ball inside easy.

Also Tyron Lue has a potty mouth
 
Adam said:
A few important issues that i posted elsewhere:

Lebrons mechanics are bit less broken, he is still falling a little but its more like miami lebron jumper

Blatt had all the defensive drills include trapping and bigs helping on multiple dribble hand offs, might have even seen some zone ideas...learning form the finals and finding ways to stay big against small ball?

Offensively the 2 sets basic and through all involved multiple ball screens and weakside action that had the 3 posting up, a big flashing to the elbow or a wing running a curl through the lane. All great ways to get lebron and kevin the ball inside easy.

Also Tyron Lue has a potty mouth
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LeBron has always been good at leaning his shoulders back. Because he has a setpoint (some call it a shot pocket) in his shot (two motion shooter) he really needs to lean his shoulders back to get arc on his shot. This has always been perceived as some flaw (calling it fading), but it really isn't. If he was all stiff and upright like say derrick rose, or Russel Westbrook; that would actually be a flaw. For four seasons in a row he has been over .35 from three, hitting over .40 one time. For 7 years in a row he has been over .33, which is probably the cutoff line. LeBron's jump shot has really never been a flaw. His freethrow shooting has always been quite mediocre, but I think his incredibly strong upperbody and big shoulders are at play here.
 
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Huber. said:
Remember, the NBA is testing for HGH now. Players are going to become smaller and injuries will take longer to return from.
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Don't worry, who ever is really using this will continue to do so, Its very easy to cheat those tests with today's drug and medicine technology especially if you get a notice before the test.

I really don't get why sports are fighting PED's, players will do it no matter what, they will just become better at cleaning themselves before the test. and I personally have zero problems with any athlete taking any kind of PED at the end of the day the more athletic the players are the more exiting it is to watch the sport.
 
Skinny Kevin Love scares me. Off season is the time to bulk up; it is hard to do with all the aerobic exercise you are getting in basketball.
 
Cassity14 said:
I still don't really get the notion of Kevin Love "banging down low." I want to see him able to matchup with the small ball 4's and not get toasted.

The quicker and more agile, the better. He's not an enforcer or anything.
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He needs to bulk up and get stronger for his own safety in order to avoid injuries, nobody wants to see him getting snapped in half, also the 26-12 Kevin was pretty damn beefy.
 
K1rieIrving>AllOtherPG's said:
Don't worry, who ever is really using this will continue to do so, Its very easy to cheat those tests with today's drug and medicine technology especially if you get a notice before the test.

I really don't get why sports are fighting PED's, players will do it no matter what, they will just become better at cleaning themselves before the test. and I personally have zero problems with any athlete taking any kind of PED at the end of the day the more athletic the players are the more exiting it is to watch the sport.
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Some PED's can be dangerous though or at the very least haven't existed long enough for us to understand the medical risk.

For those reasons, a lot of guys won't take them. These guys are at a disadvantage.

It's not like weightlifting, cardio, cryotreatment, massage, energy exertion tracking etc where you're talking about regular exercise and treatment that guys can choose to do or not do.

You're talking about putting foreign substances in your body that may have substantial long term risk. The guys willing to take those risks can experience significant changes to their bodies that put them at an advantage over the guys who play it safe.

All that said...baseball was much more exciting when Sammy, McGwire and Bonds had gigantic heads and bacne.
 
cavsfever said:
Skinny Kevin Love scares me. Off season is the time to bulk up; it is hard to do with all the aerobic exercise you are getting in basketball.
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I think he'll be fine.

During his injury stint, he also had to dial his diet way back, so he didn't add bad weight.

He has played north of 240 his whole career. Getting back to that weight should be fairly painless as he continues to be able to do more extensive lifting and also gets back on his normal training diet.
 
The Oi said:
Some PED's can be dangerous though or at the very least haven't existed long enough for us to understand the medical risk.

For those reasons, a lot of guys won't take them. These guys are at a disadvantage.

It's not like weightlifting, cardio, cryotreatment, massage, energy exertion tracking etc where you're talking about regular exercise and treatment that guys can choose to do or not do.

You're talking about putting foreign substances in your body that may have substantial long term risk. The guys willing to take those risks can experience significant changes to their bodies that put them at an advantage over the guys who play it safe.

All that said...baseball was much more exciting when Sammy, McGwire and Bonds had gigantic heads and bacne.
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Who were the basketball equivalents to these guys? The Mailman and Ben Wallace seem to fit the bill the best. I mean Bonds looked like one of those East German female swimmers from the 1970's when they were all roided up
 
cavsfever said:
Skinny Kevin Love scares me. Off season is the time to bulk up; it is hard to do with all the aerobic exercise you are getting in basketball.
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You can't lift upper body with the surgery he had, not sure how people expected him to maintain his upper body weight.

Unless y'all just wanted him to get fat.
 
Cassity14 said:
I still don't really get the notion of Kevin Love "banging down low." I want to see him able to matchup with the small ball 4's and not get toasted.

The quicker and more agile, the better. He's not an enforcer or anything.
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His post game is crucial to everything he does. He's not a perimeter player who happens to be able to guard 4s, you waste what makes him special if you use him that way.
 
cavsfever said:
His post game is crucial to everything he does. He's not a perimeter player who happens to be able to guard 4s, you waste what makes him special if you use him that way.
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What the hell are you talking about? Love has been more than a post player for years. It's part of his game, but certainly not "crucial to everything he does."
 
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