Tristan Thompson

[NasstyNate]

, TT is worth more to the Cavs than he is worth on the open market.

How? Let the market decide what he is worth and match it. That's how much he is worth to us. If he wants to take the QO and thinks he will command a max deal coming off the bench sharing minutes with Andy, Moz and Love, then he can go right ahead.

 

[BimboColesHair]

I'd take that risk.

Of course you would, you've never liked the guy...

 

[Paul]

Yes. Except the risk is that he just signs the QO, and we're faced with a potentially much larger cost to keep him next year, and without having the absolute right to match.

What if another team offers something higher than the qualifying offer? Can he still take the qualifying offer from us instead or would he be forced to either accept the other teams higher offer or our matching of that other teams offer?

Was TT's qualifying offer around 7 mil? I can't find the figure.

 

[Los216]

What if another team offers something higher than the qualifying offer? Can he still take the qualifying offer from us instead or would he be forced to either accept the other teams higher offer or our matching of that other teams offer?

Was TT's qualifying offer around 7 mil? I can't find the figure.

He has to sign the offer sheet

 

[Lazor]

He has to sign the offer sheet

Which he probably won't because I have a hard time believing any team will offer him around what we already have. We should have just let him field offers from the beginning so he could find out what he was really worth and it would have made our negotiations a hell of a lot easier.

 

[Paul]

He has to sign the offer sheet

So if I'm understanding you right, the only risk of playing a wait and see approach with TT is that we could be stuck with him at 7 mil for 1 season if NO OTHER team offers at least 7 mil a year for him? What are the odds that no NBA team would be interested in placing a bid?

I think the qualifying figure is around 6.8 mil.

 

[Los216]

So if I'm understanding you right, the only risk of playing a wait and see approach with TT is that we could be stuck with him at 7 mil for 1 season if NO OTHER team offers at least 7 mil a year for him? What are the odds that no NBA team would be interested in placing a bid?

I think the qualifying figure is around 6.8 mil.

Correct. If anything though, let's say a team gives him an offer of 4/44 we could easily counter with 5/60 or 4/52. I wouldn't have a real problem with that. Those are better options than just throwing 5/80 at him.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Could we let him test and see? If he doesn't get any bait then, but still won't budge in negotiations with us, could we come back and offer what he wants?

Not much of a strategy. He'd just refuse those other offers, and we'd then give him what he wants. Why wouldn't he do that?

 

[Jordan]

Not much of a strategy. He'd just refuse those other offers, and we'd then give him what he wants. Why wouldn't he do that?

Not necessarily a strategy, and you obviously wouldn't tell him. More of my point is that if the Cavs really think he won't get what they are offering ($80 mil) on the open market, and rather than coming back and taking the Cavs offer, he decides he will take the qualifying offer, could the Cavs preempt the last phase by upping to say, $85 mil?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Correct. If anything though, let's say a team gives him an offer of 4/44 we could easily counter with 5/60 or 4/52. I wouldn't have a real problem with that. Those are better options than just throwing 5/80 at him.

Sure. But that's not really what's going on under the scenario we're discussing. If he's not willing to sign, say, a 5 year/$80M from the Cavs, he's certainly not going to sign some other team's 4/44 or 5/60 offer and let us match.

I'm in agreement that we shouldn't pay him anything like 5/90. I simply pointed out that is value to us (whatever that is) is probably more than most other teams because we're over the cap, and that there is a risk in not signing him at letting him just play out the QO.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Not necessarily a strategy, and you obviously wouldn't tell him. More of my point is that if the Cavs really think he won't get what they are offering ($80 mil) on the open market, and rather than coming back and taking the Cavs offer, he decides he will take the qualifying offer, could the Cavs preempt the last phase by upping to say, $85 mil?

I guess I'm not following. Are you saying that he signs an offer sheet from some other team, or are you saying he declines to sign a contract, and instead decides to play out his QO single year?

 

[math-yoo]

I don't know what we're yelling about.

 

[Jordan]

I guess I'm not following. Are you saying that he signs an offer sheet from some other team, or are you saying he declines to sign a contract, and instead decides to play out his QO single year?

Nevermind, I'm an idiot. I have been so swamped with work I haven't been sleeping much. Ignore me. Thanks for the help!

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

How? Let the market decide what he is worth and match it. That's how much he is worth to us.

Well, that's the easy scenario. But what if the best offer he gets is 5/60? And what if he decides its too low, doesn't sign, and figures he's better off playing for the QO?

 

[Paul]

Well, that's the easy scenario. But what if the best offer he gets is 5/60? And what if he decides its too low, doesn't sign, and figures he's better off playing for the QO?

Wow so the player has a right to refuse an offer that is above the qualifying offer? I'm learning a lot today, ty for your input.