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Out of the Rafters at the Q said:
DeGrom just got 17 in arbitration. The highest ever was David Price at 19.75. You think Bauer can put up a season (and arbitration case) better than DeGrom after last season?
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I think he'll be right up against $20m if he has the type of year he expects, and has shown thus far. The numbers go up every year. Price was at $14m before hitting $19.75m and I believe that was his 4th year of arbitration. Bauer currently sits at $13m and has won both his hearings. He won't settle and will go to the hearing for a third straight year. There is a chance deGrom could've earned even more last year had he and Mets not settled
 
bob2the2nd said:
Going from a sore back and precautionary exam to torn muscle and out for the year.

That's one hell of a jump
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Not saying its a huge jump, but Carl Lewis in his prime couldn't jump that far.
 
Stark said:
Better get the I480 Bridge ready if Clevinger is out for the year. I'll be making a visit.
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You look up news on Clevinger and it says he expects to make his next start. We had news on Jose and Francisco in less than 24 hours after it happened, all of the sudden this team lies about injuries? Its like we will keep people updated on our 2 MVP candidates but not on our 4th pitcher?

Nothing to worry about until we see a legit source say something, not some fan on his Twitter account.
 
Cavs Need To Win said:
Should have traded Kluber in the offseason. We have plenty of starting pitching and need more hitting. And yeah during the playoffs you can get away with pitching only a 3 man rotation. So the advantage the Indians have over other teams is that we have more starting pitching depth. But in the playoffs we don't need the depth, our advantage doesn't work in the postseason. And then playoffs Francona panics and takes the staring pitcher out of he's giving up a run by the 4th inning, goes to the bullpen too soon.
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1) From all reports, we were shopping Kluber during the offseason. You don't trade a cy young pitcher under extended cheap team control for scraps. It's not the team's fault the right trade didn't come along, and there are much worse things than keeping the ace of the best staff in baseball around.
2) A 3-man rotation is dumb. We've seen the struggles of going on short rest. We've seen that teams can never have enough starting pitching.
3) In the playoffs, Tito panics? That's cute... and then everything you say afterwards is 100% bullshit. Lurk more, post less.
 
Cavs Need To Win said:
Should have traded Kluber in the offseason. We have plenty of starting pitching and need more hitting. And yeah during the playoffs you can get away with pitching only a 3 man rotation. So the advantage the Indians have over other teams is that we have more starting pitching depth. But in the playoffs we don't need the depth, our advantage doesn't work in the postseason. And then playoffs Francona panics and takes the staring pitcher out of he's giving up a run by the 4th inning, goes to the bullpen too soon.
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We didn’t trade Kluber because no one offered enough to merit trading him. Don’t trade an All-Star Cy Young guy just because. We still need him this season.
 
Lee said:
You look up news on Clevinger and it says he expects to make his next start. We had news on Jose and Francisco in less than 24 hours after it happened, all of the sudden this team lies about injuries? Its like we will keep people updated on our 2 MVP candidates but not on our 4th pitcher?

Nothing to worry about until we see a legit source say something, not some fan on his Twitter account.
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It seems like they pulled Clev cause they didn’t want to chance that type of injury. If he misses a start or two, then it happens, but if he was that badly injury we would have already put him on the DL and gotten probably Hu or Anderson up on the major league roster. (Anderson isn’t extended yet and Plutko is hurt so Hu may be the next guy up if injuries happen).
 
I worry that starting pitching matters less in the postseason now than it did in the past. It didn't get the Astros to the world series last year or the Indians there in 2017, and in both of those seasons, those were the best rotations in baseball.

Great, deep bullpens seem to matter now more than ever, and I'm not confident that the Indians are even close to the better AL teams in that area.

Maybe Bieber can be an every day reliever in the postseason?
 
Just a random stat I found while making the game thread, and I know we're only a few games and a handful of plate appearances is, but here's the amount of pitches everybody is seeing per at bat so far this season:
  • Jordan Luplow - 5.54
  • Kevin Plawecki - 4.82
  • Leonys Martin - 4.16
  • Roberto Perez - 4.14
  • Hanley Ramirez - 4.08
  • Brad Miller - 3.95
  • Eric Stamets - 3.92
  • Greg Allen - 3.91
  • Max Moroff - 3.76
  • Jake Bauers - 3.76
  • Carlos Santana - 3.69
  • Jose Ramirez - 3.68
  • Tyler Naquin - 3.48
Luplow and Plawecki up top only have 11 and 10 PAs so far, so their numbers are more skewed than others, but still interesting to see the early trends.
 
So much for that historical rotation....
 
Hope traffic on the I-480 is light today.

I'm coming sweetheart.
 
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