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A closer look at Harrison Barnes

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InBoobieWeTrust said:
Turner is a much better ball handler and playmaker and Barnes seems like he will be a better shooter and a better athlete(certainly is bigger as well)
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Turner is not a "much better ball handler".

Turner and Barnes will have the same problems in the pros: Not good enough ball handling to transfer their games. Barnes does have more upside because he has a shot to be a great shooter, something Turner will never have.

Barnes is a situational stopper and potential shooter. His absolute peak, IMO, is Danny Granger. However, I don't see that happening due to his lack of ball handling.
 
So many scouts on this board. I'll leave it to the pros and take their word.
 
Amherstcavsfan said:
Turner is not a "much better ball handler".
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I disagree. Turner is leaps and bounds more adept at handling the basketball than Harrison Barnes. Barnes dribbling is rudimentary at best.
 
Ummm... Kendall Marshall was clearly the best player on the court and exactly the type of point guard needed in this offense. He has the size, penetrating ability, and composure that fits perfectly into Scott's offense.

What's the deal here? Is hype really that powerful that we acting like Marshall isn't the real deal?
 
Barnes has no ball handling skills, let alone consistent playmaking ability. Plus he lacks explosion off the dribble and floor to make teams pay for crowding his jumper.
 
Amherstcavsfan said:
So far, he doesn't.
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He hasn't been a train wreck as a rookie coming off the bench, especially under a guy like Doug Collins who would not be my pick as a developmental coach on a team where his skillset is redundant,

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.
 
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RebelWitACause said:
Barnes has no ball handling skills, let alone consistent playmaking ability. Plus he lacks explosion off the dribble and floor to make teams pay for crowding his jumper.
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Larry Hughes had more explosion than this kid. In fact I'd re-sign Hughes before I would take this guy.
 
Barnes is far from a finished product. Seems there's some disappointment because he hasn't come in and dominated from the start despite the hype coming out of HS. Not everyone does. He's only 18 now. He might be a better player with a more developed game by the time he's 22 or 23.
Evan Turner is 22 and played 3 years of college ball.

Right now I don't see him as a star in the NBA but as a solid player who is pretty good in all areas but not dominant in any. I don't take him top 4 but if he's there's with the Clippers pick at #8 or so I can't say I'd be overly upset if the Cavs took him. There have been comments about Barnes from scouts and personnel people recently that have been much more complimentary than the ones in this thread.
We better be prepared to be patient and be willing to let whoever is drafted grow and develop. I don't see any player in this draft who's going to come right in and have an immediate huge impact.
 
Harrison/Eyenga would be a killer defensive wing rotation...
 
IWantAKouki said:
Harrison/Eyenga would be a killer defensive wing rotation...
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No playmaking or ball-handling from your SF and SG positions would be too tough to overcome. Got to get some sort of playmaking from the wing in order to maximize the Princeton offensive sets.
 
RebelWitACause said:
No playmaking or ball-handling from your SF and SG positions would be too tough to overcome. Got to get some sort of playmaking from the wing in order to maximize the Princeton offensive sets.
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While definitely true, it's not like we'd have to start both of them. But would be a luxury to have a Barnes/Eyenga combo available for certain situations. And to always have 1 of them on the floor to cover the opposing team's best wing.
 
Harrison Barnes plays nothing like Evan Turner. Turner played a Turkoglu point forward role for the Bucks where he excelled as a playmaker creating his own shot off the dribble and/or penetrating. I see nothing that screams point forward when watching Barnes plays.

Turner also has turned it around his rookie year. He took some time but Collins is actually playing him regular minutes now and over the last 6 games he's scored in double figures on something like 60% shooting.

Turner even his freshman year had a TS% of .557. I can't emphasize this enough Barnes TS% is just a bad .50. I can't think of the last lottery pick who was that inefficient: he not only does not shoot great from the field, he doesn't get to the line to make up for it. It's a waste to draft a projected 3&D guy in the lottery.
 
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