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Barnes. Terrence Jones just does not impress.

Jones was 5/9 for 12 points 7 rebounds with 3 stocks
Barnes was 7/19 for 18 points 6 rebounds with 2 stocks

I wouldn't say Jones doesn't impress he just has a lesser offensive role than Jones. He still does a lot of things well and defines the word versatility. While Barnes may be the better overall NBA prospect I think Jones fits in better as a complimentary piece to Irving, assuming that's who we get, and it leaves room for us to find another playmaker/scorer in next years' draft. If you take Barnes you're pretty much guaranteeing that he's your primary shot taker for the forseeable future and I'm not sure he's good enough to make that investment.
 
Greastest 7-19 performance in the history of college basketball. That's what people want to hear right?
 
Jones was 5/9 for 12 points 7 rebounds with 3 stocks
Barnes was 7/19 for 18 points 6 rebounds with 2 stocks

I wouldn't say Jones doesn't impress he just has a lesser offensive role than Jones. He still does a lot of things well and defines the word versatility. While Barnes may be the better overall NBA prospect I think Jones fits in better as a complimentary piece to Irving, assuming that's who we get, and it leaves room for us to find another playmaker/scorer in next years' draft. If you take Barnes you're pretty much guaranteeing that he's your primary shot taker for the forseeable future and I'm not sure he's good enough to make that investment.

Good points. I'm neither a Barnes or Jones guy myself - and I certainly wouldn't want either with our first pick. Jones has just seemed invisible to me much of this tournament, that is all. While I think Barnes has showed flashes at at times.
 
Good points. I'm neither a Barnes or Jones guy myself - and I certainly wouldn't want either with our first pick. Jones has just seemed invisible to me much of this tournament, that is all. While I think Barnes has showed flashes at at times.
I wouldn't want either with our first pick either, but with our second pick it becomes a debate. Barnes is probably gone at that point though so it really doesn't make much of a difference. He's not good enough to take with our first pick but his stock has risen enough that he's out of reach for our second pick.

I'm just a fan of Jones' versatility but I'd really like him to either improve his 3 pointer or just cut it out of his game altogether. He should take some notes from Josh Smith.
 
I wouldn't want either with our first pick either, but with our second pick it becomes a debate. Barnes is probably gone at that point though so it really doesn't make much of a difference. He's not good enough to take with our first pick but his stock has risen enough that he's out of reach for our second pick.

I'm just a fan of Jones' versatility but I'd really like him to either improve his 3 pointer or just cut it out of his game altogether. He should take some notes from Josh Smith.

Either would be solid selections with our 2nd lottery pick. I think Jones is more than likely going to be there while Barnes played well enough at the end of the year to get him some top 5 consideration which means he will probably be gone by the 8th or so pick.

I like a lot of what Barnes brings to the table, above average defender, high bball IQ, good intensity, willingness to take a team on his back. His athletic ability scares me though. I think that is what will keep him from being an allstar at the next level. I see him being a very solid player who any team would want but he's not going to be the superstar that propels a team into the playoffs. I see him comparring well to a Luol Deng. Still a very solid pick at #8 and we would be extremely lucky if he's there.

Terrance Jones prior to March I thought was a fall back option to the 1st pick. However; his play in the SEC tournament and thus far in the NCAAs has been disappointing. He's been invisible for most of the action and that's too bad. You want to see a guy like him take the lead but he's not much of a factor and his teammate Brandon Knight is taking the spot light. Terrance Jones is a Rashard Lewis type, maybe more athletic. I still think he'll be a good pick at #8 but I don't see him going any earlier than that now.
 
Greastest 7-19 performance in the history of college basketball. That's what people want to hear right?

Just like Sullinger had the greatest 21/16 performance in college basketball history. From my vantage point, Barnes was the only reason UNC was even in the game.
 
I think the thing with Barnes is when the game is on the line he wants the ball..it's going to be interesting how this guys line up at the end.
What would make this a lot easier is if these guys stayed in school and we actually saw what their real PO is.
 
Barnes is no team's first pick. 6-10? Yes. I want Williams ahead of Barnes though. Toughness means a bunch in the NBA. I wouldn't take Jones with our first second round pick.
 
From a scouting perspective, I think a lot of people tend to focus on the wrong things.

Is 7/19 impressive? Not overly but the one minute stretch, with 5 minutes left, where Barnes single handedly got them over the hump (and gave them a chance to win) indicates he has that top gear. He just needs to figure out how to get to it a little more often.

He had a steal, a three, a rebound, layup (and 1) and jumper (and 1 missed). In a minute, he scored 8 points and finally broke through the 2 possession barrier UK had held for almost the entire second half.

While UNC eventually lost and Barnes missed some shots down the stretch, the ability to have a one minute burst is certainly something you should not ignore. Scouts measure heavily on pro potential, they don't measure strictly on college production and certainly not on a game to game basis.

In his last 15 games, Barnes averaged 19.1 points, 6.3 rebounds and shot 44% from the floor. While the 44% from the floor is a bit lower than you'd like, it's not alarmingly low (especially if you get him to shave a few threes off his shot selection). It also crept up a bit from the 40.7% in the first half of the season, which certainly isn't a negative.

Do I think Barnes is a perfect prospect? Well, no but people just seem to flat out ignore his performance over the second half of the year. Given his prototypical size (6'8'', 210 lbs), I would have to roll the dice on him over many of the other players who might be more of a finished product at this point. Stars win in the NBA. Rotational players don't. When in doubt, you always gamble on the star (or the guy who could become a star) IMO.

There's clearly some questions the FO would need to answer (or at least be comfortable with) but I don't think there's the one huge red flag that just can't be ignored. Some people question his athleticism but he certainly didn't look pedestrian against a very athletic UK front line. I'm sure his individual workouts will clear up much of the debate on his measurables.
 
Via Chris Fedor:

A radio host in Iowa is reporting that Harrison Barnes will announce Tuesday that he's going back to UNC. We will see if it is true.
 
If Barnes doesnt come out and the CAVS get the fourth pick the FO will be in a tough spot. Personally I would go with Perry Jones in that situation but they would probably would be too afraid and would draft knight or a Euro.
 
If Barnes doesnt come out and the CAVS get the fourth pick the FO will be in a tough spot. Personally I would go with Perry Jones in that situation but they would probably would be too afraid and would draft knight or a Euro.

If that's the case we have to go with Valanciunas. 6'11" 240lbs and still growing. Could be anything.
 
Having 2 top 10 guys drop out of this draft would be brutal. Sullinger we can live with; Barnes does not help the cause. Hopefully Kemba Walker's stock jumps high enough to get him in the 5-7 range so when the Cavs pick at 8 someone has slipped to them. (Kanter, Valanciunas, Terrance Jones)
 

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