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Lebron not only has to change the losing culture of the Cavaliers, he has to change the losing culture of Cleveland sports fans. A big challenge ahead of him.
 
I think it's hard to say he is doing it on purpose. He is turning the ball over at an alarming rate on purpose?
 
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I've got my fingers crossed that this is exactly the correct reason for LeBron's passive play. It certainly makes sense given the on-court evidence and can be the only logical answer for his play.

It doesn't entirely explain his lack of defensive attention and focus, but I think to some degree it goes ways in providing reason for what we have seen so far.

The only issue for me at this point, is how this weighs on the team mentally. If this were the case and LeBron deliberately isn't going in takeover mode each night, I wonder if he's outlined this to his teammates? I wonder if they're aware?

Because if I'm playing beside LeBron James and I see some of the things he's been doing in comparison to what I've seen him do years prior, I'm starting to drop my head, worry, and lose confidence in the teams ability to succeed.

The issue with LeBron being the leader and setting the example is just that. If LeBron isn't showing that tenacity for winning basketball, how does the team learn it? He can't have it both ways. And as evidence has it (the games he was aggressive and scoring, the team as a whole looked more fluid, potent and cohesive and as a result were winning games), it's going to be mightily challenging for LeBron to withdraw for the sake of his team learning how to win playing team basketball and setting an example of how to win ball games simultaneously.

One has to wonder that if indeed LeBron is intentionally not being aggressive and taking over games (and reverting to early contested fadeaway jumpers which I'm still confused about?), is this really the best way for the team to grow in the long term, given the evidence? Seems there's a very significant swing on the psychological impact of the team when their leader isn't leading that might be more of a detriment than a catalyst for growth in the long-run.

Fantastic post. I was getting worried, this place is like a graveyard. Right on, you are completely on the money. You know it and I know it; sometimes LeBron just reverts back to "getting my teammates involved" mode where he's not imposing his physical will on the basketball game. It was the same story with the 06-09 Cavs teams, when James came out agressive, those other guys got into a rhythm and we'd run teams out of the gym. He inspired their confidence.

When the leader is psychologically removed from the game, they freeze up, like deer in a headlights, every time.

Sure LeBron has the experience, but he damn sure isn't helping this situation. His tough love isn't going to work, it's going to alienate him from his teammates. In order to build the trust, he's going to have to come out of this bunker that he's built up. He knew it would be a long process, but stop being a bitch about it and admit there's plays you fucked up too. Encourage these guys rather than berating them and pointing fingers and acting like you were infallible and they're the reason you ultimately fell short.

He thinks he's better than these guys, they're playing catch up to him right now, in reality he needs to put up or shut up. If he comes out and sets the tone of the game off the bat, it's going to elevate 4-5 other guys confidence level, and in the game of basketball confidence is everything. We'll win.

That doesn't happen when he goes into "getting my teammates involved" ball. That's passive LeBron, make the textbook play and nobody will question you LeBron. When LeBron comes out of the gate and tries to stuff it down someone's throat, that's when his teammates get up for him, they'll be in the spots that he's anticipating. Problem is he's just not going as hard as he used to, and that throws off the tempo of the game for these other guys who need him to be the leader, they need to see him going all out, and in return they'll do anything to help the team win. We're losing because of effort right now. It's partly personnel, but a lot of it is effort and focus related. LeBron needs to set the tone.
 
Lebron not only has to change the losing culture of the Cavaliers, he has to change the losing culture of Cleveland sports fans. A big challenge ahead of him.

I am just so confused by some of the reactions in here. So now the fans are the problem? The team is playing worse than last year after adding 2 superstars and some quality veterans.

How to solve losing culture: start fucking winning. It takes care of itself.
 
I am just so confused by some of the reactions in here. So now the fans are the problem? The team is playing worse than last year after adding 2 superstars and some quality veterans.

How to solve losing culture: start fucking winning. It takes care of itself.

we started 4-12 last year.
 
we started 4-12 last year.

We look like we're going to start 5-12 or worse at least going by how they have looked in the first month. I'm surprised they have one win let alone five the way they've played. Please stop splitting hairs.
 
just a week ago everyone was raving about how well we were progressing, LeBron was NBA player of the week, Kyrie was runner up. Don't revise history of this short season because of frustration over a 4 game losing streak.

We have 10 new players, a new coach, a new system. It's going to take some time to get everyone one the same page.
 
The team doesn't even look good when it wins with the exception of the Atlanta game. It gives up 120 points to terrible teams and on the other end of the ball, where they were supposed to excel, are apparently a mess.

I was one of the people telling you all to chill the fuck out after the first few frustrating losses. It's been almost a month now- it's still early- but it's extremely apparent that the issues with the team are not minor and they aren't just a case of "needing to gel" (probably the most horribly overused term in sports, but it fits).

I'm on record saying there should be no panic mode until January, but I'm past the first stage of not being concerned at all to now being quite concerned. I still think LeBron is fine but the way he is playing is leaving me absolutely confused. I can see why people thought he was hurt. This talk of "revising" the season is just silly- the team is ass right now, you can't sugar coat a turd. The hope is that they are going to improve drastically- like, light years- between now and April because that's the only way they are relevant in May and June.
 
The losing culture the last couple seasons without the King has really infected some of yall

That's a deadly disease

Don't ever have that disease

Fear will haunt your dreams

Man up

LBJ left this team a title contender and will do what he can to make it a title contender again.ill bet on 2 Rings
 
The issue I have with him playing the way his is, is that he still draws all the attention. Even if he can't finish or doesn't have the energy, why can't he pass the ball?

He could be facilitating and if he was passing, it would be contagious and the offense would hum. However it seems like he is in there to get his on low percentage shots. It is perplexing because the ball is really sticking with him, unless he wants to make a fancy behind the back turnover.

I don't see a big difference between his play and Dion's besides the fact that he is better at finishing bad shots.

I said it before, but if he has actually "mastered the offense" like he claimed during the preseason he has not really shown it much. Whenever basketball breakdown shows a well-executed set, it was Kyrie initiating it, not Lebron.

He likes to play pick and roll with Andy, which is great and effective, but he has fallen in love with the bounce pass which has been easy for opponents to pick off, and hard for Andy to catch. He used to lob it over the defender and Andy would finish without having to bring the ball up.

It's also hard to figure why he will play that game with Andy and not with Love. Sometimes he will play pick and pop with Love on the 3 point line, but man it seems like Love could get going better if he was getting point blank layups.
 
Today he says his play stinks, and he's not doing his job.

Time to lead LBJ; these guys will follow.
 
The issue I have with him playing the way his is, is that he still draws all the attention. Even if he can't finish or doesn't have the energy, why can't he pass the ball?

LeBron is 8th in the league in assists, including 10 in the last game.
 
Today he says his play stinks, and he's not doing his job.

Time to lead LBJ; these guys will follow.

It's quote like that which make me side with Frank's way of thinking. This last week, we saw passive LeBron in every game. Do you recall seeing him driving hard to the basket and fighting through heavy contact? No, because the only time he did was when there was a clear as day opening. Did he spot up his shots where he's most deadly? No, in fact he shot tons of contested 3's and faders that he hasn't been hitting at all. Have his assists come from his aggressive play after drawing double teams? Minus a couple pick and rolls with Andy, nope.

I have no clue what's going on behind closed doors. I'd hope he has his teammates ears and making them understand that his passive play is to try and get them in line and teach them winning *team* basketball. It's a shitty way of doing things, when your leader plays far below 100% the results will undoubtedly be an awful amount of losing games. But I have to think there was some sort of plan in place for it, especially over the course of playing 3 tough teams in 4 nights. I just think with this new week - the page will turn, the ship will be righted, and we'll see a much more efficient LeBron and a lot more winning basketball in our future.

Now if we can just get Blatt's substitutions in order...
 
It's quote like that which make me side with Frank's way of thinking. This last week, we saw passive LeBron in every game. Do you recall seeing him driving hard to the basket and fighting through heavy contact? No, because the only time he did was when there was a clear as day opening. Did he spot up his shots where he's most deadly? No, in fact he shot tons of contested 3's and faders that he hasn't been hitting at all. Have his assists come from his aggressive play after drawing double teams? Minus a couple pick and rolls with Andy, nope.

I have no clue what's going on behind closed doors. I'd hope he has his teammates ears and making them understand that his passive play is to try and get them in line and teach them winning *team* basketball. It's a shitty way of doing things, when your leader plays far below 100% the results will undoubtedly be an awful amount of losing games. But I have to think there was some sort of plan in place for it, especially over the course of playing 3 tough teams in 4 nights. I just think with this new week - the page will turn, the ship will be righted, and we'll see a much more efficient LeBron and a lot more winning basketball in our future.

Now if we can just get Blatt's substitutions in order...

yes, he got called for multiple offensive fouls doing just that, including one with almost no contact at all where he spun around the defender who flopped.
 

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