Uh, last year Dion was playing so well many members on this forum were advocating trading Kyrie and building the team around Dion. How soon we forget.1. Durant, Melo, Davis, and Ibaka all started their careers playing at a higher level than Dion. (Green is his own bizarre story that doesn't fit the Dion story, either, but in different ways, let's put him aside for a moment.)
2. They all continued to improve. Each was better in their second year than their first. By their third year in the league, they were far better than their first year.
2a. Clear and consistent improvement is different than "flashes." Dion has a good game here, or there. Or a good shot/drive/assist/defensive series, a bunch of one-offs that mostly exist in isolation.
3. With Durant, Melo, Davis, and Ibaka, you could see both their potential and then, most importantly, them converting that potential into daily NBA performance as early as their rookie years, then more so in their second year, and then even more so by their third. They quickly moved beyond the "flashes" stage.
4. Dion has done no such thing. He started horribly, truly one of the worst SG in the league his rookie year. Next year, he marginally improved, but not in any significant way. Then his third year, he collapsed back to his rookie levels --or maybe worse. At best, he still shows occasional "flashes."
You have to trade him. Trade Dion Miami pick and Memphis pick for Mozgov and Afflalo. Would the Nuggets do it?
bet me $5,000. make some reasonable stipulations/timelines.Dion is a starting caliber shooting guard in the NBA. period
Dion is a starting caliber shooting guard in the NBA. period
I have more post on the subject than anyone else on this thread. Ive put out stats. have been supported by games he has actually started and you could see the improvement in the preseason as well. Dion wasnt really given an opportunity to start. to much pressure for people to even give it a fair shake.....how? Saying "period" after your opinion doesn't make it a fact.
I have more post on the subject than anyone else on this thread. Ive put out stats. have been supported by game he has actually started and you could see the improvement in the preseason as well. Dion wasnt really given an opportunity to start. to much pressure for people to even give it a fair shake.
Yet still issues and problems Waiters gets called out for are still very very prevalent even when he isnt on the court.
I agree Dion is starter material, he'd be a perfect fit with the 76ers.Dion is a starting caliber shooting guard in the NBA. period
upside doesn't mean a damn thing if there is a very small chance of fulfilling most of it. tons and tons of players have "upside" and never make it; at some point the cavs are going to need to stop clinging to that word and realize it's just not happening.Win now moves have hurt teams in the past. Be careful what you wish for. I'm sure we could still low and get a marginal talent for Dion.
The overflowing talent we have right now may not be as durable or long lived as you think. We gave away a lot of potential this offseason. Trade Dion's potential away for a "sure but lesser talent" and suddenly the team is not so young anymore and has less upside.