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Sometimes I wonder if it would have been better to just hire a re-tread that players respect, has coached in this league before, that way we wouldn't have these problems. But it is what it is, I think Blatt was the best coach available but I can't help but ask myself every once in a while if he was the best coach for our situation.
 
warriorsz32 said:
Sometimes I wonder if it would have been better to just hire a re-tread that players respect, has coached in this league before, that way we wouldn't have these problems. But it is what it is, I think Blatt was the best coach available but I can't help but ask myself every once in a while if he was the best coach for our situation.
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Like who? Byron Scott? Wasn't he a re-tread at the time? I'd like to know who these players respect besides themselves and their buddies.
 
The problem isn't the coach at all. It's the players buying in. Windy is reporting that we're already scrapping the Princeton that Blatt was supposed to bring here.

Simmy you can have all of the talent in the world, I agree that we have a very talented staff, but the chemistry among the staff members isn't there. Damon Jones is the poison mole that will bring the whole ship down, I'm convinced of it. Know why? Because he does no good, he entertains and distracts LeBron; that's his role. The only other thing he could function as is an informant who will bring unnecessary heat and drama onto David Blatt. How does that help the team? How does he help the dynamics? He can only hurt them IMO, Jones can only do harm.

Last season we had the problem of too many indians and not one chief. Bernie Bickerstaff totally fucked the chemistry last year on Brown's bench.

If we're already scrapping the revolutionary ball-movement system Blatt was supposed to implement; and we're not DIRECTLY holding our star players accountable for lack of effort, then the team is doomed, and you'll see that at the finish line when it matters most.

Ball-movement is what brought the Spurs wealth. Ball movement was supposed to be our staple gameplan, now we're scrapping that system?

Mike Miller called some of David Blatt's stuff genius.

Know what that leads me to believe? Either our players are too stupid, or too stubborn to give this a legitimate shot.

If they dropped Gregg Popovich into a situation like ours, and the players were now playing for him; they'd get him fired: BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TAKE IT. They are babies, and they'd be losing out on a god-send of a coach.

When I first heard David Blatt speak, I was elated; finally we got someone in here who "gets it."

If Blatt had it his way, he'd cuss Kevin Love out, because he plays like a pussy on defense. That will NEVER happen here, because the American players are SOFT as Charmin, and they'll oust a guy like Popovich, or Blatt who wants to revolutionize the game.

There will be no accountability from our players, and Blatt will fall on the sword; and if that moment happens, I'll be convinced that the Cavaliers will never win a championship, because all of the signs of excessive pampering are back in play.

This ultimately goes back to Dan Gilbert and Griffin giving Ty Lue this "associate" coach nametag.

Let's not forget this either: Hiring Tyronn Lue was a direct pampering to LeBron James.

Through deliberation the Cavaliers brass decided that Dave Blatt was THE MAN. Ty Lue finished second.

We should have never hired Ty, or we should have never brought Damon fucking loser Jones back into the mix.
 
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If we cut David Blatt loose, we'll forever regret that decision. If we cut David Blatt loose, then these clowns deserve to play for Mike Brown for eternity.

I'll tell you guys what's happening. The LeBron James/Lue/Damon Jones triangle is very real. Giving Damon Jones unrestricted access was the first awful sign. You DON'T fucking pander to LeBron James, okay Gilbert? I guess you still didn't learn.

REALISTICALLY: Damon Jones adds NOTHING but distraction. He's not a motivational speaker, he's not a coach, he's a fucking crony of LeBron James who now shares the same privileges as the coaches.

Realistically, I can't see David Blatt calling Kevin Love out when he's one of the biggest problems to our defense. Since Love is on this one year deal, nobody is going to correct him like he ought to be corrected. He's a PISS POOR defender who rarely even tries to contest a shot. 4-5 times a game he watches as someone scores a layup in his face. I have never seen Love commit a hard foul in my life.

You can hear it when papa Stan Love comes on the broadcast, Kevin Love does no wrong because he gets you 10/15+ every night. What good is that when teams are like sharks smelling blood in the water when Kevin defends the rim? Zero true accountability from Love, ZERO. As long as he scores and boards, all is supposedly well.

So basically LeBron James is the emperor of this team. LeBron James has won before, so he must know right? WRONG!

Here's my analogy to this: If you had a summer to go and train with your uncle, or train with a drill sergeant, who would you choose? You'd pick the easier of the two people, you'd go train with your uncle. After a whole summer of training, which guy would have you in better condition? The Drill Sergeant, hands down! These rich millionaires don't want to get pushed around, they'd rather be comfy cozy, and the Cavaliers franchise will provide a country club atmosphere for you!

When you give the players power, when you give them loopholes and ways to oust their coach; they're going to pick the path of least resistance. Hollywood actors shouldn't speak on politics, players shouldn't try to play coach.

I feel that David Blatt has been neutered from day 1. They sat Tyronn Lue next to him, they put James and Love on one year contracts; and now we have Damon Jones there to undercut everything, to be the informant to Lue when Bron doesn't like something.

This whole situation REEKS of being fucked. I don't see Love's scoring and rebounding ever saving this team. Maybe 1/10X's Kevin Love's production will be so high that it will negate his piss poor defense.

I'm starting to feel really awful about the direction we're heading in as a franchise. When Blatt is already scrapping the gameplan, when the ball isn't moving like it ought to, when the players have means to undercut their coach; they'll choose the path of least resistance. The ONLY thing that saved Spoelstra was having Pat Riley in his corner. Bron was FORCED to play for Spo and how did that eventually turn out? We have no such figure to back up Blatt, and that's a huge misfortune because Blatt is 10x the coach of Spo, it's just that David Blatt might never get the same chance that Erik Spoelstra got in Miami.
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This a pretty severe overreaction. Almost nothing has happened yet.

They hired Lue 3 days after Blatt, well before LeBron made his decision. If, as you claim, they hired Lue to pander to James, then why exactly didn't they just make him head coach. He was in the running after all?
 
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This a pretty severe overreaction. Almost nothing has happened yet.

They hired Lue 3 days after Blatt, well before LeBron made his decision. If, as you claim, they hired Lue to pander to James, then why exactly didn't they just make him head coach. He was in the running after all?
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Because our brass clearly was more impressed with Blatt than Ty Lue. Rich I'm not sure if you know this, but our management's thinking was that Lue and James are tight, LBJ stays and has stayed multiple times at Lue's house in Las Vegas. Ty was an assistant under Doc, and they thought he'd help Blatt's transition to the NBA.

We were thinking Lue could be extra incentive for James to have a familiar guy on the bench who could hopefully make the transition easier for Dave Blatt.

Look I have no problem with Ty Lue, I think Ty is a good guy to have. Ty Lue and Damon Jones friendship is the troubling part here because any gripe someone has, it's going to spread like 7th grade gossip.

David Blatt is a gem of a coach, we should expect growing pains.

What we don't need is Blatt's growing pains to spread like 7th grade gossip and undermine him getting a fair chance to demonstrate his worth as our coach. Blatt's growing pains shouldn't be magnified, they shouldn't be used as ammunition against him, that's unreasonable, but with these player/coach dynamics it's not unreasonable to think he could get unfairly undermined.

Blatt isn't going to coach his true style here. The US player's egos wouldn't allow Dave Blatt to mother-fuck them in huddles when they are playing with no heart.

This is a really tricky situation he walked into, it's borderline unfair. I believe in my heart that Dave Blatt is twice the coach as Spoelstra, it's just that he doesn't have Pat Riley backing him up.

If Blatt got 4 chances at it like Spoelstra, I'm confident he could bring Cleveland our first championship.

I'm praying he gets the chance, I'm praying that Blatt is heard, if we're scrapping our game plan already, I'm rightfully worried where we could be heading next. I have seen this story before.

James is overly pampered.
Love is overly protected from defensive accountability.
Dan Gilbert thinks he knows best and he knows losing Bron or Love isn't an option.
That puts Blatt between a rock, and a hard place.
Adding Damon just parks a hummer on top of it, because Damon can't possibly help this team in any fashion, he can only hurt it.
 
We can get into semantics, but I just want a quick answer on this Rich:

What can Damon Jones' presence possibly do to help this team?

What can Damon Jones' presence possibly to do hurt this team?

I think you'll have more answers for the latter, but hey that's just me.
 
Nobody likes Damon Jones but he's a package deal with James. He's been a hanger on for nearly a decade.

But you said that our front office is pandering to James and setting Blatt up to fail, but if that was the case they could have just made Ty Lue the head coach in the first place. Obviously Blatt must have SOME backing from management and obviously they must be thinking of something other than what LeBron James wants based on that decision alone, no?

But ultimately your getting all worked up and nothing has happened. We haven't heard of players lashing out at Blatt or getting into fights with him. We haven't heard anything about the FO being upset with Blatt. Basically, all this is stemming from the fact that James, Lue, and Damon Jones are friends. I just don't see the point in letting that get to you right now.

As far as it being unfair to Blatt, he knew what he was getting into. He knew that his style towards players wouldn't work in the NBA. Tough shit. And once LeBron came back the spotlight was going to be on Blatt to perform, unfair or not. That's the way it goes and that's how it went for Spoelstra, too. Trust me, had the Heat not turned it around after their rough start, Spoelstra wouldn't have lasted that first season.
 
only thing I dont agree with is that 'nothing has happened'. we're underperforming and I cant imagine concerns and coaching hasn't been addressed/given to these players.

if theyre not buying in, they can not buy in while blatt is still here and create negative results
 
Rich, things are "happening" as we speak. Our team doesn't look good, the coach doesn't look happy, and we're beginning to hear grumblings. I'd say that's something. And certainly not a good sign. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Ehh I thought Love contested the shots well last game and I believe he even had a few blocks.

As far holding him accountable, come playoff time, James will be the one doing that. Same with Irving.

Regarding the FO screwing up the coaching staff, what else is knew ? I mean they did just fire a coach after 1 year on a 4 year contract.
 
This is all so effing ridiculous...why can't these players just play.

Are they really too stupid to see that when they don't buy in and cause all of this "drama", they lose? Why do they think they know best?

All of this "Lebron has a tremendous basketball IQ" garbage....does he not see that running the offense is more effective than him ISO'ing? Did he already forget that the Spurs blew the doors off of his team by moving the ball? Jesus.

How can you listen to David Blatt speak to you and not respect him...while knowing that he won 17 championships in 21 seasons.

Lebron is a fucking child. It's disgusting.
 
Iv seen rookie mistakes but Iv seen nothing that questions if he can win if the team executes

I couldn't say that for Mike or Byron

Even tho Byron want brought in to win
 
Damien O'Connel said:
How can you listen to David Blatt speak to you and not respect him...while knowing that he won 17 championships in 21 seasons.
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Lol, to most NBA players, overseas leagues are the equivalent of the D-League but with better salary. And like you or me, they know nothing about it other than that it exists and is another farm org for the NBA.
 
edit: Almost every player has spoken highly of David Blatt. It's been small doses so far, but we've seen the offense can be very potent.

My guess is Kyrie would prefer to be running Blatt's offense more as it was one of the reasons he cited for re-signing here. Could it have played a part in the odd shoot around on Wednesday?

 
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