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Tristan Thompson

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spydy13 said:
The problem with this is we have no idea what his value was around the league. I'm guessing most teams would have been terrified at the ridiculous asking price Rich Paul has made up in his mind for the value of his client.

There's not a ton you can do when an agent decides his client is worth way more than he actually is because, I can only assume, he doesn't have that many clients and has to cash in somehow.
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That's the job of the GM not guys talking shit on RCF. Just because we never evaluated trade targets doesn't mean they didn't exist we just lack information.

Also I don't think Paul would demand the max from any other owner except Gilbert.
 
Target a replacement for Tristan with that exception around the deadline, and say good riddance to Tristan. I am in favor of that. I actually hope he signs the QO at this point.

Nothing personal, I don't dislike him, he's a good player. He has outrageous demands, and I'd be looking to move on right now.
 
Whether TT signs for the best offer from Cleveland or waits and takes the best offer next season, he will have "neither me or my family will ever have to work again" money at the end of the contract. What he may not have if he leaves is a few titles. Not many teams are truly competing for a championship and the teams who could pay him near max next year are Portland or the Lakers, and not San Antonio or Golden State. I think he wants to win and that is why I expect this to blow over and he will extend with Cleveland after some more posturing from his agent.
 
spydy13 said:
The problem with this is we have no idea what his value was around the league. I'm guessing most teams would have been terrified at the ridiculous asking price Rich Paul has made up in his mind for the value of his client.

There's not a ton you can do when an agent decides his client is worth way more than he actually is because, I can only assume, he doesn't have that many clients and has to cash in somehow.
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Agents don't set the market, teams do, in how much they're willing to pay for players.

If Tristan had serious value as a max guy, he probably would have been traded awhile ago, given there would have been some good value for him in regards to a trade.

I really don't think the Cavs are that high on him personally. That shows in their unwillingness to overpay for him. They arguably overpaid for Shump, because they valued him a lot.

Not suggesting the Cavs don't like him, but I don't think they view him as a must have player either.
 
gourimoko said:
That's the job of the GM not guys talking shit on RCF. Just because we never evaluated trade targets doesn't mean they didn't exist we just lack information.

Also I don't think Paul would demand the max from any other owner except Gilbert.
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Well that's true, and it's just as likely that Griff did his due diligence and found that all that was available was peanuts.

And you may be right about Paul, but GMs would want assurances of that being the case before trading for him.

Either way, I agree with you that it is utterly absurd that Paul is taking this stance. Quite frankly, TT might want to step in and stop this shit because his stock with the fans is plunging right now, and that's for a guy that seems like a pretty decent dude that wants the fans to like him.
 
Last thing, but it's gonna be really hard for me to ever like Tristan after this. Draymond Green gets 82 and Tristan wants 94? Green's team actually won the fucking championship and he's willing to not sit there and demand an absolute max deal, even though he actually would get more money next off-season by playing hardball. And that goes without saying that Green is a better player.

This board hates Draymond Green, but right now he looks like a damn angel compared to Thompson.
 
godfather said:
Agents don't set the market, teams do, in how much they're willing to pay for players.

If Tristan had serious value as a max guy, he probably would have been traded awhile ago, given there would have been some good value for him in regards to a trade.

I really don't think the Cavs are that high on him personally. That shows in their unwillingness to overpay for him. They arguably overpaid for Shump, because they valued him a lot.

Not suggesting the Cavs don't like him, but I don't think they view him as a must have player either.
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The problem is they already offered to overpay him, but he wants to be even more, absurdly overpaid.
 
I still don't understand how anyone could think this guy is a good defender, he must have a low bball IQ because he is constantly losing his assignment, honestly some of the worse help defense I've seen.
 
How much could this potentially alienate them with LeBron, too? Would LB be pissed at the Cavs, probably, but I'd take it he wouldn't be too happy with Tristan either on this stance. Even Rich Paul maybe.

After all, how unreasonable are we being. We don't want to pay the guy the max, who comes off the fucking bench?

I still think a middle ground eventually gets settled. This is just a hard arms tactic by Tristan and Paul. But LB is not going anywhere, so they're really going to take the "get me out of Cleveland" card, with LeBron James here?
 
About the agent, he basically said:
"look, my client will lose money now with the QO. But next offseason, I'm capable of losing even more money (not signing with Cavs, who will be able to offer more), only to prove a point - that he was worth that initial demand and we were right all along".

Lol that's as stupid as it gets. It's not even a bluff, because it's not realistic.

Just do nothing and let him sign the QO, keep flexibility and options. Next season we'll see.
 
godfather said:
Target a replacement for Tristan with that exception around the deadline, and say good riddance to Tristan. I am in favor of that. I actually hope he signs the QO at this point.

Nothing personal, I don't dislike him, he's a good player. He has outrageous demands, and I'd be looking to move on right now.
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if it was that easy TT would have signed his contract months ago, he knows that we can't get a player who does what he does with the TPE. i said weeks ago that TT signing the QO isn't a good scenario for us (because there's a chance he would be pissed and leave a year later with us not having any real assets to replace him), at the end of the day i still see both sides coming to an agreement at some point though.
 
http://www.insidehoops.com/nbasalaries.shtml Raef LaFrentz was paid nearly $12 million in 2007-08. If you bet that NBA teams won't overpay you are probably wrong. Though he could easily end up making a couple million more to start on a bad team and receive constant blame when he doesn't make any real difference in the standings on that roster.
 
TT needs to :gtfo2:. I love the guy, and he will definitely be difficult to replace, but this really screws us over. No way in hell is he worth that much. I'm one of the few on this board who would be totally fine with an overpay of 5 years $80 million but this new demand is just asinine. Ugh :vio (13):
 
*L-Train* said:
if it was that easy TT would have signed his contract months ago, he knows that we can't get a player who does what he does with the TPE. i said weeks ago that TT signing the QO isn't a good scenario for us (because there's a chance he would be pissed and leave a year later with us not having any real assets to replace him), at the end of the day i still see both sides coming to an agreement at some point though.
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Yeah, that immediate clarification that he hadn't actually signed the QO yet let me know that this was just Paul working.
 
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