2012 Draft

[chrisrich91]

Yo, MYoung23

Recently you said your top 6 was Davis, Beal, MKG, Barnes, Drummond, Robinson. Two questions:

How do you think the first 3 picks shake out and then our corresponding 4th pick?

If Davis, MKG, Beal come off first, who's your pick?

You randomly pop in and give some good insight...just want to hear where your head's at right now.

 

[Henry Tuttle]

I'm sure this was posted at some point, but I hadn't seen it yet. Draftexpress has TRob going 2...

1 Anthony Davis *PF
19 years old; 6'10"; 220 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman
2 Thomas Robinson *PF
21 years old; 6'9"; 240 lbs.
Kansas, Junior
3 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist *SF
18 years old; 6'7"; 228 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman
4 Bradley Beal *SG
18 years old; 6'4"; 201 lbs.
Florida, Freshman
5 Andre Drummond *C
18 years old; 6'10"; 251 lbs.
Connecticut, Freshman
6
From
Nets Jared Sullinger *C
20 years old; 6'9"; 280 lbs.
Ohio State, Sophomore
7 Harrison Barnes *SF
20 years old; 6'8"; 223 lbs.
North Carolina, Sophomore
8 Jeremy Lamb *SG
20 years old; 6'5"; 185 lbs.
Connecticut, Sophomore
9 John Henson *PF
21 years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
North Carolina, Junior
10
From
Timberwolves Damian Lillard *PG
21 years old; 6'2"; 185 lbs.
Weber State, Junior
11 Kendall Marshall *PG
20 years old; 6'4"; 180 lbs.
North Carolina, Sophomore
12 Perry Jones *PF
20 years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
Baylor, Sophomore
13 Austin Rivers *SG
19 years old; 6'4"; 203 lbs.
Duke, Freshman
14 Tyler Zeller *C
22 years old; 7'0"; 250 lbs.
North Carolina, Senior
15 Terrence Jones *PF
20 years old; 6'9"; 249 lbs.
Kentucky, Sophomore
16
From
Knicks Terrence Ross *SF
21 years old; 6'7"; 197 lbs.
Washington, Sophomore
17 Dion Waiters *SG
20 years old; 6'4"; 210 lbs.
Syracuse, Sophomore
18
From
Jazz Quincy Miller *SF
19 years old; 6'9"; 200 lbs.
Baylor, Freshman
19 Moe Harkless *SF
19 years old; 6'8"; 208 lbs.
St. John's, Freshman
20 Marquis Teague *PG
19 years old; 6'2"; 179 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman
21 Meyers Leonard *C
20 years old; 7'0"; 240 lbs.
Illinois, Sophomore
22
From
Clippers Evan Fournier *SG/SF
19 years old; 6'7"; 206 lbs.
Poitiers, International
23 Arnett Moultrie *PF/C
21 years old; 6'11"; 220 lbs.
Mississippi St., Junior
24
From
Lakers Fab Melo *C
21 years old; 7'0"; 250 lbs.
Syracuse, Sophomore

 

[Adam]

2012 1st Round Mock
1 Hornets Anthony Davis PF
Kentucky, Freshman
2 Bobcats Thomas Robinson PF
Kansas, Junior
3 Wizards Michael Kidd-Gilchrist SF
Kentucky, Freshman
4 Cavaliers Bradley Beal SG
Florida, Freshman
5 Kings Andre Drummond C
Connecticut, Freshman
6 Trailblazers Jared Sullinger C
Ohio State, Sophomore
7 Warriors Harrison Barnes SF
North Carolina, Sophomore
8 Raptors Jeremy Lamb SG
Connecticut, Sophomore
9 Pistons John Henson PF
North Carolina, Junior
10 Hornets Damian Lillard PG
Weber State, Junior
11 Trailblazers Kendall Marshall PG
North Carolina, Sophomore
12 Bucks Perry Jones PF
Baylor, Sophomore
13 Suns Austin Rivers SG
Duke, Freshman
14 Rockets Tyler Zeller C
North Carolina, Senior
15 76ers Terrence Jones PF
Kentucky, Sophomore
16 Rockets Terrence Ross SF
Washington, Sophomore
17 Mavericks Dion Waiters SG
Syracuse, Sophomore
18 Timberwolves Quincy Miller SF
Baylor, Freshman
19 Magic Moe Harkless SF
St. John's, Freshman
20 Nuggets Marquis Teague PG
Kentucky, Freshman
21 Celtics Meyers Leonard C
Illinois, Sophomore
22 Celtics Evan Fournier SG/SF
Poitiers, International
23 Hawks Arnett Moultrie PF/C
Mississippi St., Junior
24 Cavaliers Fab Melo C
Syracuse, Sophomore
25 Grizzlies Tony Wroten PG/SG
Washington, Freshman
26 Pacers Jeff Taylor SF
Vanderbilt, Senior
27 Heat Tyshawn Taylor PG
Kansas, Senior
28 Thunder Royce White PF
Iowa State, Sophomore
29 Bulls Orlando Johnson SG
UC Santa Barbara, Senior
30 Warriors Andrew Nicholson PF/C
St. Bonaventure, Senior

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1wQbtodwD
http://www.draftexpress.com

DX latest mock has some suprises in, including trob going second and the kings taking drummond. Can't see them pairing him with cousins personally. The good news is beal drops to cleveland, but we take melo at 24.

 

[CavsFinals2016]

New Orleans Hornets: Anthony Davis, PF, Kentucky, 6-10, Fr.
Charlotte Bobcats: Thomas Robinson, PF, Kansas, 6-9, Jr.
Washington Bullets: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, SF, Kentucky, 6-7, Fr.
Cleveland Cavaliers: Bradley Beal, SG, Florida, 6-3, Fr.
The Cavaliers' biggest need is on the wing, so Beal likely steps in and starts right away. He and Kyrie Irving would be a terrific young backcourt of the future. Andre Drummond would be a possiblility here, too, but Beal is the safer pick that Cleveland needs right now. I wouldn’t rule out Harrison Barnes here either.
Sacramento Kings: Andre Drummond, C, Connecticut, 6-11, Fr.
Portland Blazers: Harrison Barnes, SF, North Carolina, 6-8, So.
Golden State: Perry Jones, F, Baylor, 6-11, So.
Toronto Raptors: Dion Waiters, SG, Syracuse, 6-4, So.
Detroit Pistons: Arnett Moultrie, PF, Mississippi State, 6-11, Jr.
New Orleans Hornets: Austin Rivers, SG, Duke, 6-4, Fr.
Portland Blazers: Damian Lillard, PG, Weber State, 6-2, Jr.
Milwaukee Bucks: Jared Sullinger, PF, Ohio State, 6-9, So.
Phoenix Suns: Kendall Marshall, PG, North Carolina, 6-2, So.
Houston Rockets: Tyler Zeller, C, North Carolina, 7-0, Sr.
Philadelphia 76ers: John Henson, PF, North Carolina, 6-10, Jr.
24. Cleveland Cavaliers: Moe Harkless, SF, St. John's, 6-8, Fr.
Cleveland own the Lakers' pick from the Ramon Sessions trade. Go here to see all of the outstanding 2012 NBA Draft Trades.
Grabbing Beal at No. 4 would address the Cavaliers' need at shooting guard, and Moe Harkless could be the answer at small forward. I really like him due to his size, athleticism, and versatility, and if Cleveland drafts like this, I will love the team's first-round picks.

http://walterfootball.com/nbadraft2012mock_1.php

 

[malus]

I'm not enjoying the pro-Beal sentiment I'm reading from Realgm Wiz.

 

[Snarly]

NBA Draft.net Mock... Man I could Live with this In a second and would be euphoric If this happend.


# Team Player H W P School C
1 New Orleans Anthony Davis 6-10 220 PF Kentucky Fr.
2 Charlotte Harrison Barnes 6-8 223 SF North Carolina So.
3 Washington Andre Drummond 6-11 270 PF/C UConn Fr.
4 Cleveland Michael Kidd-Gil... 6-6 216 SF Kentucky Fr.
5 Sacramento Thomas Robinson 6-8 240 PF Kansas Jr.
6 *Portland Damian Lillard 6-2 190 PG Weber St. Jr.
7 *Golden St. Bradley Beal 6-4 207 SG Florida Fr.
8 Toronto Jeremy Lamb 6-5 185 SG UConn So.
9 Detroit John Henson 6-10 220 PF North Carolina Jr.
10 *New Orleans Terrence Ross 6-6 197 SG Washington So.
11 Portland Perry Jones 6-11 235 SF/PF Baylor So.
12 Milwaukee Tyler Zeller 6-11 240 PF/C North Carolina Sr.
13 Phoenix Kendall Marshall 6-4 197 PG North Carolina So.
14 Houston Austin Rivers 6-4 203 SG Duke Fr.
15 Philadelphia Arnett Moultrie 6-10 230 PF Mississippi St. Jr.
16 *Houston Meyers Leonard 7-0 245 C Illinois So.
17 Dallas Jared Sullinger 6-10 281 PF Ohio State So.
18 *Minnesota Dion Waiters 6-4 215 SG Syracuse So.
19 Orlando Moe Harkless 6-8 218 SF St. Johns Fr.
20 Denver Terrence Jones 6-8 244 SF Kentucky So.
21 Boston Royce White 6-8 249 SF Iowa St. So.
22 *Boston Andrew Nicholson 6-9 225 PF St. Bonaventure Sr.
23 Atlanta Jeffery Taylor 6-7 226 SF Vanderbilt Sr.
24 *Cleveland Doron Lamb 6-4 200 SG Kentucky So.
25 Memphis Marquis Teague 6-2 189 PG Kentucky Fr.
26 Indiana Fab Melo 7-0 255 C Syracuse So.
27 *Miami Quincy Miller 6-9 210 SF Baylor Fr.
28 Oklahoma Cty Evan Fournier 6-6 190 SG France Intl.
29 Chicago John Jenkins 6-4 205 SG Vanderbilt Jr.
30 *Golden St. Festus Ezeli 6-11 255 C Vanderbilt Sr.
# Team Player H W P School C
31 Charlotte Kevin Jones 6-8 248 PF West Virginia Sr.
32 Washington Draymond Green 6-6 235 SF/PF Michigan St. Sr.
33 *Cleveland Will Barton 6-6 175 SG/SF Memphis So.
34 Cleveland Khris Middleton 6-7 211 SG/SF Texas A&M Jr.
35 *Golden St. Tony Wroten 6-5 204 PG/SG Washington Fr.
36 Sacramento Drew Gordon 6-9 245 PF New Mexico Sr.
37 Toronto Kevin Murphy 6-7 195 SG Tennessee Tech Sr.
38 *Denver Mike Scott 6-8 237 PF Virginia Sr.
39 Detroit Furkan Aldemir 6-10 230 PF Turkey Intl.
40 *Portland Kostas Papanikol... 6-8 221 SF Greece Intl.
41 Portland William Buford 6-5 190 SG Ohio State Sr.
42 Milwaukee Herb Pope 6-8 261 PF Seton Hall Sr.
43 *Atlanta Darius Miller 6-7 238 SF Kentucky Sr.
44 *Detroit Maalik Wayns 6-1 205 PG Villanova Jr.
45 Philadelphia JaMychal Green 6-9 217 PF Alabama Sr.
46 *Washington Tyshawn Taylor 6-3 180 PG/SG Kansas Sr.
47 Utah Henry Sims 6-11 251 C Georgetown Sr.
48 New York Jared Cunningham 6-4 175 SG Oregon St. Jr.
49 Orlando Kris Joseph 6-7 217 SF Syracuse Sr.
50 Denver Mitchell Watt 6-9 221 PF Buffalo Sr.
51 Boston J'Covan Brown 6-1 185 PG/SG Texas Jr.
52 *Golden St. Robert Sacre 6-11 260 C Gonzaga Sr.
53 LA Clippers Kim English 6-5 191 SG Missouri Sr.
54 *Philadelphia Tomas Satoransky 6-6 207 PG/SG Czech Republic Intl.
55 *Dallas Quincy Acy 6-6 230 PF Baylor Sr.
56 *Toronto Greg Mangano 6-10 231 PF/C Yale Sr.
57 *New Jersey Terrance Henry 6-10 195 SF/PF Mississippi Sr.
58 *Minnesota Cameron Moore 6-10 223 PF UAB Sr.
59 San Antonio Leon Radosevic 6-10 235 PF Croatia Intl.
60 *LA Lakers Scott Machado 6-1 180 PG Iona Sr.



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[shukle]

Beal / Harkless is my dream first round. If I am the GM, that's what I am targetting. The problem is I don't see the celtics and atlanta passin on Harkless... I think we would need to move up to 20 i think

And I don't know if Beal is going to fall to 4... Let's hope Bobcats go with drummond/barnes/mkg, while wiz go with MKG/TRob

 

[sam_slam911]

To be honest, our hopes aren't that much changed from say if we got the 2nd pick. We were still looking at MKG, Beal or even possibly Drummond. We will still definitely have the chance to draft one of those, with 2 of them still being on the board being a possibility as well. We are still looking at the same players, we're just looking at the ones left after Charlotte and Washington go.

I really would not be surprised if MJ went with Barnes at 2.

 

[MYoung23]

Yo, MYoung23

Recently you said your top 6 was Davis, Beal, MKG, Barnes, Drummond, Robinson. Two questions:

How do you think the first 3 picks shake out and then our corresponding 4th pick?

If Davis, MKG, Beal come off first, who's your pick?

You randomly pop in and give some good insight...just want to hear where your head's at right now.

I have no idea what Charlotte will do. If they keep their pick they dont have a whole lot (relatively speaking) at SF and PF if you believe Biyombo is C. If they dont trade the pick I think Barnes, Robinson and Kidd-Gilchrist are candidates.

Im not sure what the Cavaliers would do in that scenario. There are a lot of factors involved. Drummond is a long term pick. Barnes is a relatively safe pick. I dont have a handle on Chris Grant yet so Im not sure which direction they are likely to go.

In other words not enough information right now.

 

[mAo_mAo]

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Beal's shooting form is absolutely beautiful. Ross is crazy athletic.

 

[Green Lantern]

NBA Draft.net Mock... Man I could Live with this In a second and would be euphoric If this happend.*.

Snarly,I would have to go this way..we need a big.

4 Cleveland Michael Kidd-Gil... 6-6 216 SF Kentucky Fr.
24 *Cleveland Fab Melo 7-0 255 C Syracuse So.
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33 *Cleveland Will Barton 6-6 175 SG/SF Memphis So.
34 Cleveland Tony Wroten 6-5 204 PG/SG Washington Fr

 

[sailfish]

Here's what I see happening above us:

1. New Orleans- done deal here. Pick: Davis
2. Charlotte- for a multitude of reasons they have to hit with this pick, which is why I believe they will end up playing it safe. They took a raw center (Biyombo) a year ago, so I believe they pass on Drummond. Their biggest needs are PF, SF, & an upgrade at SG. I see them choosing between Robinson, Barnes, & MKG. I think they go with Robinson, who is the safest pick of the three. Pick: Robinson
3. Washington- their biggest needs are a SG & SF, who can shoot from the outside. They need a forward who will compliment Jan Vesely, who didn't make a 3 all year. I see them choosing between Beal & Barnes, the latter of who is a better outside shooter than MKG. Pick: Barnes
4. CLEVELAND- pretty simply here. They want a wing and their order of preference is MKG, Barnes, Beal. They are assured of getting one of them and will take whoever is left. A trade up is a possibility, depending on the cost involved. Pick: MKG

 

[Douglar]

Here's a repost from the other thread--

1) Hornets take Davis because they f-ing won that shit, bitches!!!
2) Bobcats take Dummond because Jordan isn't any better at talent selection than when he drafted Kwame with the #1 pick
3) Wizards take Beal because Jordan Crawford is more of a liability than Chris Singleton
4) That leaves the Cavs to chose between Barnes, Robinson, and MKG and I think they take MKG.
5) Kings take Robinson because they need an adult on that team
6) Portland takes Barnes and laughs all the way back to the WCF's.

 

[Green Lantern]

All right Dougie..you're Grant..this far out from the draft,who would U target?

 

[Douglar]

All right Dougie..you're Grant..this far out from the draft,who would U target?

I think Grant would be pretty happy drafting MKG, Barnes, Robinson, or Beal and would probably take them in that order.

I don't expect him to trade up for any higher for any of them of them unless it doesn't cost the Cavs any talent.

I do see him trying to trade up from #24 into the mid teens. After pick #1, the sweet spot in this draft is in the 12-17 range. There's going to be most talent in that area since the JJ Hickson draft.