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2012 Finals !!

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Who wins the Finals?

  • OKC in 4

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • OKC in 5

    Votes: 15 13.0%
  • OKC in 6

    Votes: 71 61.7%
  • OKC in 7

    Votes: 8 7.0%
  • Other team in 4

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Other team in 5

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Other team in 6

    Votes: 10 8.7%
  • Other team in 7

    Votes: 5 4.3%
  • I don't care either way.

    Votes: 2 1.7%

  • Total voters
    115
  • Poll closed .
If I'm Brooks I would have Ibaka guard James. That would probably limit his back to the basket game just what the C's did with Bass. Ibaka is more mobile and has more length than Bass that he should be able to keep up with the drives and the pull ups. This will also preserve their wings.
 
You're absolutely right, the Thunder are not playing well at all... but the Heat aren't playing much better. They really aren't.

I wouldn't care too much if the Heat earned their championship, but they haven't earned it. This series and the Boston series have been atrocious games, and even though both teams are playing terribly, one team has to win.

The thing I am most upset about is Miami's game plan, is that it includes taking advantage of the refs. Let's ignore how the game has been called. Let's ignore my opinion of one sided refereeing. It is impossible, literally impossible, for someone to argue with a straight face that the Heat aren't actively looking for fouls whenever they can get them. Every opportunity, fair or foul, they can eek out a whistle... they take it. Even at the expense of playing the game properly.

I am disgusted that a champion can possibly be crowned by using fouling as part of your game plan. I'm not talking about situational fouling. For instance if someone is in foul trouble, you go attack them. That's fair. But to look for fouls on ever.single.possession to the point that it is part of your game plan ruins the game itself. Fouls were put in place so the defense couldn't take advantage of the offense with over the top physical (dirty) play. Fouls aren't designed so that the offense can take advantage of the defense.

I completely understand and that is a great point. When Cristiano Ronaldo is on a breakaway and knows he just ruined his chance to score, he will trip over a blade of grass and tempt the ref to call a penalty. However, if the ref calls a penalty, you can not blame him for being one sided then. He was fooled into making a bad call in a split second judgement error. If Dwhistle and LeJerkoff are putting on oscar winning performances on offense, then its extremely tough on the refs and even harder on them when the fans consider them one sided. If baiting calls is not part of OKC's offense, then the reffing would appear that way just by default. But I do agree that that is a terrible gameplan and does ruin the game of basketball.
 
I completely understand and that is a great point. When Cristiano Ronaldo is on a breakaway and knows he just ruined his chance to score, he will trip over a blade of grass and tempt the ref to call a penalty. However, if the ref calls a penalty, you can not blame him for being one sided then. He was fooled into making a bad call in a split second judgement error. If Dwhistle and LeJerkoff are putting on oscar winning performances on offense, then its extremely tough on the refs and even harder on them when the fans consider them one sided. If baiting calls is not part of OKC's offense, then the reffing would appear that way just by default. But I do agree that that is a terrible gameplan and does ruin the game of basketball.

Your comparison to soccer is totally valid but you left out the part where FIFA took the step of issuing yellow cards to players who flop. As a result, there's a lot less diving now.

The NBA needs to do the same thing: stop calling these ridiculous flops and start handing out technicals to players who are clearly trying to trick the refs. The next time Wade throws himself into the lane, acts like he was blasted with a shotgun and mean mugs the ref, light his ass up with a T.

Do that and the game would clean up real quick.
 
You don't want to hear it, but they're not winning game 5 with the way the games have been called. It's impossible. You can't beat Miami's three stars when 2 of them are protected as much as they are by the officials. There is nothing OKC can do. It took a ridiculous first quarter and Westbrook/Nick Collison playing out of their minds to keep it close. The third quarter was just too much to overcome. They can't sustain a high enough level of play when Miami gets bailed out so much.

Series is over Thursday night.

Im done talking about officials! Im going to focus on what OKC can control.

-Russell has to continue attacking.

-They need to put KD in motion a little more. To much isolation and him standing fighting the Heats overplay/fronting defense.

-On misses they need to run and run and run

-Leave Thabo on James and let him get his 30+, but cut off Shane, Rio, UD, and JJ's open looks by playing them honestly.
 
Thunder win game 5. Bet the house.
 
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Thunder still act confident. Anyone see the presser today? They say the right things, but they don't necessarily look confident. Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but I still know OKC is going to go as hard as they can next game. They won't be missing the open shots they have been. They will be making all those. They will be getting the calls they didn't get before. They will be at their best. Heat will have to beat them at their best.
 
Its a closeout game and OKC will give it their all. That may not be enough however as James has been really good in closeout games throughout his career. I tend to think the Heat remember losing the Championship on that same floor a year ago and im sure they'll be at their best as well.

Should be another good game that will be won by the team that makes the most plays in that last 5 minutes.
 
IF the NBA was fixed, then how come the NBA let the Cavs get swept by the Spurs when it was Cleveland's and LeBron's first Championship round appearance?

It doesn't make much sense for the NBA to let that happen if all they are about is ratings and whatnot.
 
IF the NBA was fixed, then how come the NBA let the Cavs get swept by the Spurs when it was Cleveland's and LeBron's first Championship round appearance?

It doesn't make much sense for the NBA to let that happen if all they are about is ratings and whatnot.

That was the lowest rated NBA Finals in history, if I'm not mistaken.

Also, the NBA would probably get better ratings if one of the featured teams was a super team of three colluding all-world players that pretty much everyone outside of Miami hates with a fiery burning passion and wants to watch lose. And we all know just how much professional sports cater to big market cities (teams like San Antonio and OKC are exceptions).
 
I wouldn't bet a penny on the Thunder in the net game. They are beat, they know it lets move on.

There are all of these other threads on this board of which you can post in as opposed to the one that says "2012 Finals!" if you're ready to move on.
 
Im done talking about officials! Im going to focus on what OKC can control.

-They need to put KD in motion a little more. To much isolation and him standing fighting the Heats overplay/fronting defense.
Lebron just isn't losing sight of at all. They are even running him behind multiple screens over and over again. His simply isn't getting any space. The only thing I can think of is having him bring up the ball.

-On misses they need to run and run and run
They are already doing that
-Leave Thabo on James and let him get his 30+, but cut off Shane, Rio, UD, and JJ's open looks by playing them honestly.
Would make a good adjustment. This would essentially force Wade into a role where he has to be more aggrassive/attack. Which his body isn't letting him do right now.



They could also try cheating off of Bosh as he still recovering from the abdominal strain.
 
Game 4
Total Fouls on Mia 18
Total Fouls on OKC 20

Sure looks like one team got all the calls to me. :weirdo:

That game was probably the most physical game of the Finals and they let a lot go on both sides and then they called some head scratching weak touch fouls...once again on both sides.


:dunno:

No one was talking about how many fouls were called. Just that there were some horrible calls that go against okc that usually cost them points and momentum.

Meanwhile the bs calls in favor of okc usually don't even effect the game...team foul 1-3, bs call on Shane battier or chalmers just to keep calls even.


Edit: so because the thunder aren't clicking on all cylinders, they deserve to get hosed by the refs.
 
so even though im the only 1 who belives okc take the championship let me ask you guys this
if okc can pull of game 5 and go back to okc down 2-3,where do you see ther chance from ther??
 

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