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2016 Presidential Race AND POLL

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Who do you plan to vote for in November?

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 93 39.6%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 44 18.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 55 23.4%
  • I won't vote

    Votes: 43 18.3%

  • Total voters
    235
Personally I've become more liberal.

But I refuse to vote for Hilary.

Whatever Republican opposes her has my vote.

Unless that person is named Rick. (Santorum or Perry). Then I'm moving back overseas.

What happens if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton?

Yikes. What I find interesting, is that almost no one even likes Hilary. She's not a likable person, she doesn't have a great track record. She's been under constant scrutiny over benghazi and the hiding of emails.

The only thing she really has going for her is the name, and a lot of campaign funds.

If that's all it takes to get elected president, then we should be very scared.
 
How entertaining are the debates going to be with Trump being there?

At least there'll be that.
 
Why I like Trump: I share a ton of the populist viewpoints that he does, and the crony capitalist cycle has to be broken. The cycle, simplified, is rich people & corporations buying political pull that benefits and entrenches those donors. The democrats call it "republican economics" and the republicans call it "democratic economics". I call it "shady". If there is 1 person who has spoken vociferously against it, and can afford the campaign $ to break this cycle, it is Trump. Most of the rest of the American problems are symptomatic of this one issue. If you give a damn about this country, it has to stop.

Blah, blah, blah...too long didn't read...I just needed to read the first 4 words...that said, you Mr Natedagg are a racist!!!
 
I want Hilary to win so Bill can be the first man/first husband. There's just way too much irony and humor in that, it needs to happen.

The race should definitely be entertaining. Clinton, Bush, TRUMP! Lol..
 
I hope these debates are available on Hulu. Really looking forward to this primary.
 
I want Hilary to win so Bill can be the first man/first husband. There's just way too much irony and humor in that, it needs to happen.

The race should definitely be entertaining. Clinton, Bush, TRUMP! Lol..

I disagree, I think Hilary is actually the man in that relationship.
 
I disagree, I think Hilary is actually the man in that relationship.

Their relationship is a sham. There is no traditional "man" of the house in their marriage. Hillary does her thing when and with whom she wants as does Bill. They're old now, so it's probably less than it used to be, but when they were in the White House, both had their own separate lives.

It had been said that Hillary wasn't upset over the Lewinsky affair, she was upset at the "conspiracy" to out her husband as doing something that everyone else in Washington, D.C. was doing anyway. It was the rampant hypocrisy that got to her, the fact that the Republicans were willing to delve into something that was traditionally off-limits; it wasn't the affair - she was having an affair at the same time and couldn't likely care any less.
 
Their relationship is a sham. There is no traditional "man" of the house in their marriage. Hillary does her thing when and with whom she wants as does Bill. They're old now, so it's probably less than it used to be, but when they were in the White House, both had their own separate lives.

It had been said that Hillary wasn't upset over the Lewinsky affair, she was upset at the "conspiracy" to out her husband as doing something that everyone else in Washington, D.C. was doing anyway. It was the rampant hypocrisy that got to her, the fact that the Republicans were willing to delve into something that was traditionally off-limits; it wasn't the affair - she was having an affair at the same time and couldn't likely care any less.

No secret she treats Bill like garbage too. I'm not a Bill Clinton fan by any means, she's just not a nice human being, period.

There's not an ounce of integrity in her. I agree, her marriage to Bill is a farce.

I have a very hard time seeing her winning. I think the media has mind fucked people into thinking she's a "sure thing".

I just don't buy it.
 
Their relationship is a sham. There is no traditional "man" of the house in their marriage. Hillary does her thing when and with whom she wants as does Bill. They're old now, so it's probably less than it used to be, but when they were in the White House, both had their own separate lives.

It had been said that Hillary wasn't upset over the Lewinsky affair, she was upset at the "conspiracy" to out her husband as doing something that everyone else in Washington, D.C. was doing anyway. It was the rampant hypocrisy that got to her, the fact that the Republicans were willing to delve into something that was traditionally off-limits; it wasn't the affair - she was having an affair at the same time and couldn't likely care any less.
Is she the Claire or Frank Underwood of the family?
 
Is she the Claire or Frank Underwood of the family?

Claire.

The Underwoods are actually re-envisioned (post-British remake) around the Clinton's. Claire's work as First Lady is supposed to be a redux of Hillarycare if anyone remembers that debacle and how it played out.
 
No secret she treats Bill like garbage too. I'm not a Bill Clinton fan by any means, she's just not a nice human being, period.

There's not an ounce of integrity in her. I agree, her marriage to Bill is a farce.

I have a very hard time seeing her winning. I think the media has mind fucked people into thinking she's a "sure thing".

I just don't buy it.

No Democrat will lose this election @godfather. It would be extremely difficult for the GOP to get the required number of electoral votes.

In order to understand this, just ask yourself; what states does Jeb Bush or Chris Christie or John Kaisich carry that gets them into the White House?

Bush wins Florida? Great.. But he'll lose Iowa, Colorado, Nevada and Virginia.

Christie won't win Jersey. So he has no angle. Against Clinton or Sanders he has no shot in the Northeast, and he won't garner votes in Virginia and he virtually eliminated himself from contention in Colorado this week.

Rubio? Latinos actually prefer Bush over Rubio.. He wins Florida? Great.. but then what?

The Republican Party simply doesn't have a way to win a national election.
 
No Democrat will lose this election @godfather. It would be extremely difficult for the GOP to get the required number of electoral votes.

In order to understand this, just ask yourself; what states does Jeb Bush or Chris Christie or John Kaisich carry that gets them into the White House?

Bush wins Florida? Great.. But he'll lose Iowa, Colorado, Nevada and Virginia.

Christie won't win Jersey. So he has no angle. Against Clinton or Sanders he has no shot in the Northeast, and he won't garner votes in Virginia and he virtually eliminated himself from contention in Colorado this week.

Rubio? Latinos actually prefer Bush over Rubio.. He wins Florida? Great.. but then what?

The Republican Party simply doesn't have a way to win a national election.

No I agree, I've stated Republicans are done in this country. People no longer trust them.

That's why Mitt lost (not saying he was this really strong candidate to begin with, although I liked him a million times more than McCain). People weren't sold on Obama, he was just the lesser of two evils.

I am talking about the primary, I don't think Hillary (is it Ls or two, who the hell cares), is a lock just yet.

I know she's the front runner right now, but hell, who is leading in the polls now is really not something I'll take seriously.

Hillary was the overwhelming favorite last time around, and this little unknown Senator from Chicago beat her.

I am going out on a limb and saying she doesn't get it. Her chances lessen a lot if Biden likely puts his hat in the race, too.
 
Claire.

The Underwoods are actually re-envisioned (post-British remake) around the Clinton's. Claire's work as First Lady is supposed to be a redux of Hillarycare if anyone remembers that debacle and how it played out.

I find some similarities to Lyndon Johnson when it comes to Frank. He was a political ambitious and ruthless man, much like Frank.
 
No I agree, I've stated Republicans are done in this country. People no longer trust them.

That's why Mitt lost (not saying he was this really strong candidate to begin with, although I liked him a million times more than McCain). People weren't sold on Obama, he was just the lesser of two evils.

I am talking about the primary, I don't think Hillary (is it Ls or two, who the hell cares), is a lock just yet.

I know she's the front runner right now, but hell, who is leading in the polls now is really not something I'll take seriously.

Hillary was the overwhelming favorite last time around, and this little unknown Senator from Chicago beat her.

I am going out on a limb and saying she doesn't get it. Her chances lessen a lot if Biden likely puts his hat in the race, too.

Agreed 100%

If Sanders wins Iowa and New Hampshire he's in a really solid position. Hillary will really hope to solidify the Black vote behind her in South Carolina where the majority of Democratic voters are African-American (she's already started this process). Florida is going to be interesting though. Can Clinton capture the Jewish vote, ahead of Sanders? If Israel is a concern, if there is one person more inline with Israeli interests, it's Bernie Sanders - that's one of my biggest problems with him. But the Florida primaries are going to be very interesting indeed.

If Sanders takes Iowa, New Hampshire, and Florida before Super Tuesday - Clinton will hope for a sweep on Super Tuesday. Either she can get the caucus states behind her this time, or Sanders will pull an Obama and neutralize Super Tuesday entirely. But we should know by then. This won't be dragged out like the 2008 primaries I think.
 

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